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OTZeagle1 07-21-2021 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Benito (Post 3266982)
What's really sad and embarrassing is our contract.

I won’t argue it needs some freshening up, but this garbage (“worse then a regional”) contract has paid me $2,464,XXX.XX in the last 6.5 years. That doesn’t include 401k, A-plan. Think your friends at any regional or in a different line of work might struggle to find your line of reasoning.

notmyplatypus 07-21-2021 04:36 PM

What’s most saddening is these few “yes” voters we have to listen to. Blaming ex VXers and all that BS ! Thank god we inherited about 800 hardened airline vets that have been thru many contracts, furloughs, acquisitions, bankruptcies etc etc etc......

OTZeagle1 07-21-2021 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by notmyplatypus (Post 3267038)
What’s most saddening is these few “yes” voters we have to listen to. Blaming ex VXers and all that BS ! Thank god we inherited about 800 hardened airline vets that have been thru many contracts, furloughs, acquisitions, bankruptcies etc etc etc......

“800 hardened airline vets that have been thru many contracts, furloughs, acquisitions, and bankruptcies” 🤔

Best guess but in the group of 650 VX OG’s, think there is probably 75-100 that kinda resemble a few of those descriptions, but the US, Midwest, Aloha, ATA crowd also ran to the lowest paying non-union NB job in the US🤔🤔🤔.
The rest of the VX group are just a bunch of X-regional pilots. Talk about sad, and clueless, you just spout out emotional hyperbole and garbage pretending some stance of moral high ground and elitism. Dude, I voted “NO” both times I was given a vote.

Angry, bitter, whinny, unhappy, and hardened… Yup, that’s the group I want hang with, really? Sounds like an incredible life, sign me up!

StallWeezy 07-21-2021 05:41 PM

Brutal! 😂😂😂

THE SHAFT 07-21-2021 05:49 PM

I back OTZ here….I was VX, X regional and I enjoy working here. No one can honestly say VX brought anything to this marriage besides the galley. Which have all left.

conquestdz 07-21-2021 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3267065)
“...but the US, Midwest, Aloha, ATA crowd also ran to the lowest paying non-union NB job in the US🤔🤔🤔.

Where in the heck would you expect a recently unemployed pilot from those companies to go during that time frame? Do you think they wouldn't have preferred to go to one of the other, higher paying carriers? It's not like flying jobs were abundant post 2008. VX and a couple regionals were all that was hiring unless you wanted to go the expat route.

fucius 07-21-2021 08:14 PM

OMG!! Are we gonna start this again? AS is a decent place to work, but contractually, we have some work to do given our peers’ contracts. I think we can all agree on that, contract 2022!!


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NotTellin 07-21-2021 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by OTZeagle1 (Post 3267065)
“800 hardened airline vets that have been thru many contracts, furloughs, acquisitions, and bankruptcies” 🤔

Best guess but in the group of 650 VX OG’s, think there is probably 75-100 that kinda resemble a few of those descriptions, but the US, Midwest, Aloha, ATA crowd also ran to the lowest paying non-union NB job in the US🤔🤔🤔.
The rest of the VX group are just a bunch of X-regional pilots. Talk about sad, and clueless, you just spout out emotional hyperbole and garbage pretending some stance of moral high ground and elitism. Dude, I voted “NO” both times I was given a vote.

Angry, bitter, whinny, unhappy, and hardened… Yup, that’s the group I want hang with, really? Sounds like an incredible life, sign me up!

Wow! I’m glad I’m in the left seat so I don’t have to fly with you. I feel sorry for your F/Os. Now for your incredibly insensitive comeback in 3…..2…..1

ShyGuy 07-22-2021 11:33 AM

So SFO Boeing base. Not gonna lie, I thought SF was done. This is great news. Prolonged Buses in fleet over 2023, 2024 means reductions spread out over years, with more growth = reduced involuntary amounts of reductions to other bases.



Cautiously optimistic about this news.

NewGuy01 07-22-2021 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 3267462)
So SFO Boeing base. Not gonna lie, I thought SF was done. This is great news. Prolonged Buses in fleet over 2023, 2024 means reductions spread out over years, with more growth = reduced involuntary amounts of reductions to other bases.



Cautiously optimistic about this news.


I sure hope so. I’m still hoping for a call from United. I imagine even with a 3.5 year loss of seniority the upgrade would still be faster at SFO if I leave for UA.


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