Alaska Air Hiring
01-20-2022, 05:02 PM
#5641
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Originally Posted by echelon
Bravo! Good story. So compelling and insightful, in fact, that as soon as I'm done typing this I'm going to get my block rep on the phone and let him know that the Negotiating Committee can stop what they're doing and go home, because it's now clear to me that making competitive compensation and achieving the QOL I deserve is as easy as just looking inward and changing my attitude! Thanks!
I’m going to wake up early and bring in coffee, tea and sodas every trip for the passengers.
I can soar like an Arctic Eagle!
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01-20-2022, 05:04 PM
#5642
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 508
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
The union is direct, establishing our areas of deficiency. On her you have gross generalizations, strawman arguments, and exaggeration. If you can’t distinguish the difference buy perusing a couple of pages on here, well sir there is no way to help you.
No dog in the fight as I work elsewhere, but I’m sure the union see’s the gripes on these boards among other platforms and it can be used as a barometer as to the pulse of said union they represent. Continually toeing the company line and shooting down counter viewpoints while labeling people ‘whiners’ in the process makes me question your and a few other’s motivation.
-Just my birds eye view observation.. Carry on.
01-20-2022, 05:28 PM
#5643
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Originally Posted by Burton78
No dog in the fight as I work elsewhere, but I’m sure the union see’s the gripes on these boards among other platforms and it can be used as a barometer as to the pulse of said union they represent. Continually toeing the company line and shooting down counter viewpoints while labeling people ‘whiners’ in the process makes me question your and a few other’s motivation.
-Just my birds eye view observation.. Carry on.
-Just my birds eye view observation.. Carry on.
I want change, I expect significant improvements. I will not continually throw a childish tantrum on an anonymous website, a tantrum that will achieve nothing besides making me look like a toddler. Dude it’s embarrassing! But yeah, that’s how you think we achieve real results 🤔
Last edited by OTZeagle1; 01-20-2022 at 05:38 PM.
01-20-2022, 05:43 PM
#5644
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Posts: 910
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
If you think the union uses anything on here as a barometer of anything, you must be really slow. They do real polling, they know the industry, they are not using APC for anything.
I want change, I expect significant improvements. I will not continually throw a childish tantrum on an anonymous website, a tantrum that will achieve nothing besides making me look like a toddler. Dude it’s embarrassing! But yeah, that’s how you think we achieve real results 🤔
I want change, I expect significant improvements. I will not continually throw a childish tantrum on an anonymous website, a tantrum that will achieve nothing besides making me look like a toddler. Dude it’s embarrassing! But yeah, that’s how you think we achieve real results 🤔
I've never seen a pilot group so proud of their methods while subsequently losing at the same time.
01-20-2022, 07:05 PM
#5645
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Position: This side of the dirt.
Posts: 890
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
The union is direct, establishing our areas of deficiency. On her you have gross generalizations, strawman arguments, and exaggeration. If you can’t distinguish the difference buy perusing a couple of pages on here, well sir there is no way to help you.
So is exaggeration. The company consistently labels the messages and perspectives of our Union leadership, what you call “direct … areas of deficiency” as gross generalization and exaggeration. The company has maintained for several years now that it is Union leadership fomenting discontent…. “Whining”. Reckon it’s in the eye of the beholder.
The way the company continually violates (knowingly) its own Do the Right Thing slogan, I’d think you might give a little grace to your fellow line pilots, maybe just say nothing instead of calling them whiners.
Cya at one of the pickets on April 1?
01-21-2022, 04:26 AM
#5646
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Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 936
Originally Posted by flyprdu
The last people who should tout results are Alaska pilots.
I've never seen a pilot group so proud of their methods while subsequently losing at the same time.
I've never seen a pilot group so proud of their methods while subsequently losing at the same time.
Guy just lost another million dollars in BTC. He has to come here and insult those junior to him to feel better about himself.
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01-21-2022, 06:21 AM
#5647
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Position: GearBbychoice
Posts: 159
Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
If you think the union uses anything on here as a barometer of anything, you must be really slow. They do real polling, they know the industry, they are not using APC for anything.
I want change, I expect significant improvements. I will not continually throw a childish tantrum on an anonymous website, a tantrum that will achieve nothing besides making me look like a toddler. Dude it’s embarrassing! But yeah, that’s how you think we achieve real results 🤔
I want change, I expect significant improvements. I will not continually throw a childish tantrum on an anonymous website, a tantrum that will achieve nothing besides making me look like a toddler. Dude it’s embarrassing! But yeah, that’s how you think we achieve real results 🤔
Last edited by Flaps1check; 01-21-2022 at 06:33 AM.
01-21-2022, 06:43 AM
#5648
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Posts: 1,178
Originally Posted by av8or
“Gross generalization” is a subjective term.
So is exaggeration. The company consistently labels the messages and perspectives of our Union leadership, what you call “direct … areas of deficiency” as gross generalization and exaggeration. The company has maintained for several years now that it is Union leadership fomenting discontent…. “Whining”. Reckon it’s in the eye of the beholder.
The way the company continually violates (knowingly) its own Do the Right Thing slogan, I’d think you might give a little grace to your fellow line pilots, maybe just say nothing instead of calling them whiners.
Cya at one of the pickets on April 1?
So is exaggeration. The company consistently labels the messages and perspectives of our Union leadership, what you call “direct … areas of deficiency” as gross generalization and exaggeration. The company has maintained for several years now that it is Union leadership fomenting discontent…. “Whining”. Reckon it’s in the eye of the beholder.
The way the company continually violates (knowingly) its own Do the Right Thing slogan, I’d think you might give a little grace to your fellow line pilots, maybe just say nothing instead of calling them whiners.
Cya at one of the pickets on April 1?
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