gooddeal

Kasher award is no longer relevant....the only thing to keep eye on is PBS infliction going forward. The arbitrators ruling on the TPA is the chaff now...time to move on to the real elephant in the room.

lowflying

Is PBS going to happen now? Why doesn't the pilot group wait until 2018 to negotiate it? It's by far the biggest bargaing chip the pilots have.

Mudhen200

PBS is not in the mix right now.
2 yrs from now, when we go into formal section 6 negotiations, I'm sure management will ask for it.
The next round of negotiations could drag on for years. So my best guess is that we will start the PBS discussion about 5 or 6 years from now.
After we have discussed it for several years, the answer will still be no. Never. No way.
Our schedule flexibility is very very bad. Always has been but is continually getting worse. Giving our management and crew scheds PBS would be the worst thing that I can imagine around here. You might as well just agree to fly 1000 hrs a year and never get a day off you need. PBS under our management would destroy any remaining QOL a Alaska pilot has.

IDIOTPILOT

I strongly recommend you check the Scheduling Flexibility MOU of the TPA. It's not talked about now to focus on the JCBA but it's in the mix.

gooddeal

This is absolutely true...and I hope that all AS/VX pilots would too. It is very late to not know that we have a set timeline in place for negotiations.

TPA Negotiations -> Scheduling Flexibility Negotiations -> PBS Negotiations

Also, there needs to be a very clear understanding how the 2018/2019/2020 pairings would continue to change negatively as the company continues to implement Q400/E175/B737/Airbus across the new route system. Whatever scope language that comes from the TPA will be aligned through pairing construction. Those pairings will NOT look like what AS/VX publishes and operates today. PBS is the keys to that kingdom...and it needs to be well stated and understood that just as Kirby stated in the video, staying flexible and competitive is the company priority going forward, not creating a bunch of commutable or high credit pairings.

From the pilots perspective, the TPA process is essentially done: its on to arbitration. Stay unified, stay informed, and let the Negotiators do the talking for us. However, don't let yourself miss the opportunity to look forward at what's next...you can bet management is.

RJs2majors

I'm not new to PBS. Without starting a PBS vs. line bidding war I'll say one thing. I liked PBS to a degree at my previous company since I figured out how to use it to my advantage. Having lived under airgroup's scheduling, I'm certain that PBS will not work in the pilot group's favor. JW and his people have a strong hold and the company wants more efficiency from this pilot group. They routinely violate the contract and manipulate MOUs to their advantage. Besides low pay, some of the worst work rules, and SLI, scheduling inefficiencies and frustrations are major reasons why why I'm leaving. I will have no dog in the fight very soon but consider yourself warned. You'd have to experience life at Alaska to really know what I mean.

suckit

your numbers are wrong. Current 2017 12yr United Rates for the 737 are:
Capt: $264.38 FO: $180.58 - 2018 Capt: $272.32 FO: $186.00