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Old 01-28-2018, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SkiVasquez View Post
But a company's goal in negotiations is to: 1) offer a contract that will be accepted by 50% of the pilot group + 1, and 2) string out negotiations and wear down our negotiators and pilot group, so that when we are finally offered a TA, they satisfy objective #1. I believe we fell victim to this strategy.
Management satisfied objective #1? 50% +1? Didn't the TA pass overwhelmingly?

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Old 01-28-2018, 08:21 PM
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Management satisfied objective #1? 50% +1? Didn't the TA pass overwhelmingly?
Yes, I think the company succeeded in stringing out negotiations for as long as possible and wore us and the negotiators down. Yes, it passed pretty overwhelmingly. But I think you're missing the point of what was being talked about in this thread. VBD/TDY pilots no longer have rental cars or long stay hotels. Why? Absolutely no language was put into the contract, even though VBD/TDY existed well prior to the contract implementation. That's our own fault.
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Old 01-29-2018, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SkiVasquez View Post
Yes, I think the company succeeded in stringing out negotiations for as long as possible and wore us and the negotiators down. Yes, it passed pretty overwhelmingly. But I think you're missing the point of what was being talked about in this thread. VBD/TDY pilots no longer have rental cars or long stay hotels. Why? Absolutely no language was put into the contract, even though VBD/TDY existed well prior to the contract implementation. That's our own fault.
I see your point. An oversight that is likely more painful to junior than senior, and as you said, surely there are more. I also agree with others that first contracts often leave much to be desired. Work in progress that thankfully improves over time.
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