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Old 02-06-2018, 06:31 PM
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Anything mentioned in the town hall today regarding profit sharing? Or anything else worth repeating for that matter?
4 %....deposited tomorrow.
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Old 02-06-2018, 07:43 PM
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Bonus structure to change...

Four tier system. Vague on specifics of each tier.

One tier met = no bonus
Two tier met = 3% bonus
Three tier met = 5% bonus (same as now)
Four tier met = 6% bonus
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I loved the response to whether we are going to get the tax cut bonus nearly every Fortune 500 company is giving. "It's better for everyone if we reinvest that into the company, which gives better bonuses and higher compensation, and growth for everyone". Oh, but we're taking your bonus to a tiered system which is rigged to never hit the top tiers. And management compensation isn't changing. Oh, and the company is bloated and inefficient, and we need to tighten the belt.

All as Maury dumps stock.

With a very coy "We aren't planning any mergers, but we wouldn't know if someone was looking at us"…

Here comes the bee.
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Old 02-07-2018, 05:16 AM
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I loved the response to whether we are going to get the tax cut bonus nearly every Fortune 500 company is giving. "It's better for everyone if we reinvest that into the company, which gives better bonuses and higher compensation, and growth for everyone". Oh, but we're taking your bonus to a tiered system which is rigged to never hit the top tiers. And management compensation isn't changing. Oh, and the company is bloated and inefficient, and we need to tighten the belt.

All as Maury dumps stock.

With a very coy "We aren't planning any mergers, but we wouldn't know if someone was looking at us"…

Here comes the bee.
You know, EVERYONE is hiring. Feel free to try your luck....if for no other reason than to spare the rest of us from your sophomoric posts.
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Old 02-07-2018, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sqwkvfr View Post
You know, EVERYONE is hiring. Feel free to try your luck....if for no other reason than to spare the rest of us from your sophomoric posts.
He stated he is retiring in less than a year IIRC. He has a point. Unless they put out the metrics for each “Tier” and are transparent on where we stand, we probably will never see 6%.
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Old 02-07-2018, 05:56 AM
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He stated he is retiring in less than a year IIRC.
Thank Christ for that.
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You know, EVERYONE is hiring. Feel free to try your luck....if for no other reason than to spare the rest of us from your sophomoric posts.
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Thank Christ for that.
Funny, you make a sophomoric post complaining about a sophomoric post.

Telling people to leave who don't agree with you is always a mature response also.

Go play. The adults are talking.
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Old 02-07-2018, 12:39 PM
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You know, EVERYONE is hiring. Feel free to try your luck....if for no other reason than to spare the rest of us from your sophomoric posts.
I see nothing wrong with ecams post. Nothing more than pointing out that Allegiant chooses to squander a goodwill gesture that most other companies are doing. Especially considering they like to tout how profitable they are every quarter as they squeeze out another double digit profit while most airlines are lucky to have a single digit profit. So increased tuition reimbursement.....great for the few that will take advantage of it. A tiered system for espp.....what is it about those tiers? Once again this will be a limited payback for the few who can max it out to truly benefit. The rest of it? Somebody got theirs, I guarantee it, and its not the average employee.
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Old 02-07-2018, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ecam View Post
I loved the response to whether we are going to get the tax cut bonus nearly every Fortune 500 company is giving. "It's better for everyone if we reinvest that into the company, which gives better bonuses and higher compensation, and growth for everyone". Oh, but we're taking your bonus to a tiered system which is rigged to never hit the top tiers. And management compensation isn't changing. Oh, and the company is bloated and inefficient, and we need to tighten the belt.

All as Maury dumps stock.

With a very coy "We aren't planning any mergers, but we wouldn't know if someone was looking at us"…

Here comes the bee.
Wait, we almost agreed on something? Say it ain't so...

I'll reserve (final) judgment on the new system until I see what the four metrics are that we have to meet. However, my pessimistic cynical side is already preparing for never or rarely seeing a 5% contribution again. Sad that they didn't just add .25% for reaching each metric (incentive to do better and keeps the max at 6%).

As far as the bonus goes, I was one of those 23 that asked, though I'm betting mine was probably less antagonisticly worded than most. Just thought it was funny that its better to reinvest it all in the company instead of a one time payout. Like SWA is going to give out bonuses this year and forget to invest anything into the growth of the company... GMAB...
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Old 02-07-2018, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chickenorbeef View Post
I see nothing wrong with ecams post. Nothing more than pointing out that Allegiant chooses to squander a goodwill gesture that most other companies are doing. Especially considering they like to tout how profitable they are every quarter as they squeeze out another double digit profit while most airlines are lucky to have a single digit profit. So increased tuition reimbursement.....great for the few that will take advantage of it. A tiered system for espp.....what is it about those tiers? Once again this will be a limited payback for the few who can max it out to truly benefit. The rest of it? Somebody got theirs, I guarantee it, and its not the average employee.
The ESPP isn't tiered, it's probably the one thing that pilots can take advantage of (10% stock discount going to 15% discount BUT just for this year).

It's our profit sharing that is going to be tiered (company contribution) based on meeting four metrics. Stand by... could be a 0%, 0%, 3%, 5% (what we get now) or 6% contribution depending on how many metrics we hit. But it takes hitting 3 of 4 metrics just to keep our 5%.
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