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tailendcharlie 05-18-2023 11:41 AM

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed...h=6890c1747a22

captnate702 05-18-2023 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 3638137)

I cannot stop laughing at this article… the GRIEVANCES.

But what about the 4000 GRIEVANCES that mean nothing when you lose every arbitration.

UgotHired1st 05-19-2023 03:02 AM

1st post lol
 

Originally Posted by NotATwat (Post 3637885)
Where do you guys come up with this stuff?
Even the Union, which obviously wants to try to make the glass sound half empty, isn't suggesting multiple years from contract.



No one is going to pretend the pay isn't crap, comparatively. But you're still making 45-50k a year. Millions of folks pull it off in this country.

Try a little harder next time.

Jet J 05-19-2023 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by NotATwat (Post 3637885)

No one is going to pretend the pay isn't crap, comparatively. But you're still making 45-50k a year. Millions of folks pull it off in this country.


This reminds me of roger Cohen in the early 2000s defending regional pilots making 15k a year. You’re either an amazing troll, or a complete idiot. 😂 either way thanks for the laugh

NotATwat 05-19-2023 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Jet J (Post 3638484)
This reminds me of roger Cohen in the early 2000s defending regional pilots making 15k a year. You’re either an amazing troll, or a complete idiot. 😂 either way thanks for the laugh

It's not about being a troll or even about defending the company. I'm just tried of all the glass half thirty, sky is falling, personalities on here. Is it fair? No. Is it doable? Absolutely.

Everyone loves their "GeT yOUr UnItEd ApPs In" replies. But all the ones consistently crying about it never seem to actually leave.

I know I'll catch all the hate for daring to point this out. But I feel like it needed to be said.

tom11011 05-19-2023 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3638267)

But what about the 4000 GRIEVANCES that mean nothing when you lose every arbitration.

We haven't lost every arbitration, we have won many.

captnate702 05-19-2023 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3638617)
We haven't lost every arbitration, we have won many.

we have lost the last 7 in a row and AR continues to tell everybody to file GRIEVANCES to justify the kingdom he has built.

Answer me this: if management is always violating the contract but we lose every arbitration, is the problem with management or our union?

We stopped winning arbitrations when AR hired a culinary attorney instead of somebody with real experience.

But you know this Tom, as an AR worshipper, and are happy to contribute to his kingdom. We do have the most expensive, albeit inept, union in the industry.

tailendcharlie 05-19-2023 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3638657)
we have lost the last 7 in a row and AR continues to tell everybody to file GRIEVANCES to justify the kingdom he has built.

Answer me this: if management is always violating the contract but we lose every arbitration, is the problem with management or our union?

We stopped winning arbitrations when AR hired a culinary attorney instead of somebody with real experience.

But you know this Tom, as an AR worshipper, and are happy to contribute to his kingdom. We do have the most expensive, albeit inept, union in the industry.

But no point in voting with our feet and leaving for a legacy because, as you know, it's "the same $hit$how." Like in MLB all the teams are the same, doesn't matter if you're on the A's or Dodgers ‘cause it’s the same $hit$how, right? The grass is never greener.

G4slumdod 05-19-2023 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 3638705)
But no point in voting with our feet and leaving for a legacy because, as you know, it's "the same $hit$how." Like in MLB all the teams are the same, doesn't matter if you're on the A's or Dodgers ‘cause it’s the same $hit$how, right? The grass is never greener.

Can we all just agree that TT getting fired is the best thing that has happened here in a long time.

captnate702 05-19-2023 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 3638705)
But no point in voting with our feet and leaving for a legacy because, as you know, it's "the same $hit$how." Like in MLB all the teams are the same, doesn't matter if you're on the A's or Dodgers ‘cause it’s the same $hit$how, right? The grass is never greener.

the irony of all ironies is that AR trumpets “industry standard” at every turn but ignores the fact that ALPA is epitome of “industry standard”. What he’s actually saying is “we deserve an ALPA contract because ALPA is industry standard.”


if we want an industry standard contract we need an industry standard union. Let’s face it, when this is all over, we need a real union and the only legitimate choice is ALPA.


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