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trvsmrtn 04-11-2023 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3622407)
I would say EV leaving for a legacy is the exception that proves the rule. Taking a victory lap because ONE person is leaving for a legacy??

We still have AR, RF, RJ, KS, JA, MC, that have between 20 and 30 years left before retirement and they all seem to believe that we will earn a great contract.

See you at the picket line

I wasn’t taking a victory lap. After your previous statement, I was simply asking a question. If you’re gung-ho about backing the union because they seem committed for the long term and now one of them is bailing, then has your attitude changed?

What the **** is with some people wanting to turn everyone into the ****ing enemy, jfc.

tailendcharlie 04-11-2023 12:51 PM

I was thinking in terms of a Captain in his 8th year & presumably privy to details of the true state of negotiations - I doubt he’d leave if we were anywhere near moving toward an agreement. I don’t expect to hear anything different from these first mediated negotiations. Co. still waiting for the recession to kick in & the return of the 2008/9 hiring environment. I’d love to be proven wrong.

tom11011 04-11-2023 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 3622584)
I was thinking in terms of a Captain in his 8th year & presumably privy to details of the true state of negotiations - I doubt he’d leave if we were anywhere near moving toward an agreement. I don’t expect to hear anything different from these first mediated negotiations. Co. still waiting for the recession to kick in & the return of the 2008/9 hiring environment. I’d love to be proven wrong.

AR has said today that all indications are business as usual from the company in the first sessions, ie they are not ready to deal yet. He also says the company is adding 2 more attorneys to the table.

tailendcharlie 04-11-2023 02:43 PM

They can easily show just enough progress to string this out 2-3 more years….I still say MG gets serious after we get released (I know many say we’ll never get released) either way the company has to be in way more dire straights before anything happens.

For the remaining fence-sitters….fyi

trvsmrtn 04-12-2023 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 3622646)
They can easily show just enough progress to string this out 2-3 more years….I still say MG gets serious after we get released (I know many say we’ll never get released) either way the company has to be in way more dire straights before anything happens.

For the remaining fence-sitters….fyi

EV is supposedly making a video to announce his departure. What he says could help a lot of the fence-sitters make up their minds.

Margaritaville 04-12-2023 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by trvsmrtn (Post 3622879)
EV is supposedly making a video to announce his departure. What he says could help a lot of the fence-sitters make up their minds.

Anyone know where he's going?

EV is probably the smartest one of that bunch. I can't believe he held out this long. Everyone should see this as a huge sign. He's seen the confidential info...

G4slumdod 04-12-2023 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3622967)
Anyone know where he's going?

EV is probably the smartest one of that bunch. I can't believe he held out this long. Everyone should see this as a huge sign. He's seen the confidential info...

Might be the smartest of those that haven't left yet but the smart ones dipped a while back.

trvsmrtn 04-12-2023 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3622967)
Anyone know where he's going?

EV is probably the smartest one of that bunch. I can't believe he held out this long. Everyone should see this as a huge sign. He's seen the confidential info...

He’s headed to AA

Will53202 04-12-2023 02:43 PM

Come to Allegiant or stay at the regionals and upgrade? I only gave 130 hours part 121.

Losamigos 04-12-2023 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Will53202 (Post 3623173)
Come to Allegiant or stay at the regionals and upgrade? I only gave 130 hours part 121.

Who knows.

Hows your current QOL? Do you commute? Do you live in an Allegiant base? Does your regional have a guaranteed job at any legacies?


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