You do understant that the retention bonus is cheaper than current market rates? Unless they have to pay that and a very good back pay agreement the company is getting a smoking cheap deal.

Yes but how much longer do you think they can have that much $ on the books? It is not a good look

I completely agree with this. Spot on.

I think the NC is so afraid of being accused of taking the money and running, that they are holding out for a home run or nothing. If it’s not perfect then there’s no deal to be had. That is insanity.

There is real opportunity cost to waiting and waiting and waiting. Another report tonight that Spirit and Frontier merger failed and spirit is preparing for bankruptcy…again. The market is not looking good, and if it does tick up, attrition will never be as high as it was in 2022. We have no leverage. We are on our 4th negotiating team. I know GU and JR just showed up but it’s not like we get to rewind three years and start over.

What’s even more frustrating is the time and energy being spent on picketing, talking to media and working behind the scenes to get pressure management to fold. The NC is super transparent about the media blitz strategy, the picketing details, OBrien’s secret relationship with Trump, etc. but won’t tell us a thing about what actually happened with the mediator and what has to happen in order to meet again.

I am also hearing nothing from people in the TC who rub shoulders with management. Usually they’re fairly talkative but even management sources are being tight lipped.

I heard we can’t meet again until the union presents a comprehensive of the other sections. Who really knows, but headed towards binding arbitration is the last thing we want, and if we’re even close to that (which sounds like we are) then we need to kick everyone in the room and GU to the curb

Everyone I know there welcomes any reasignment as a lineholder for the additional $$$, an extra 30-50 credit is not uncommon in a busy month there.

My friends there literally twice as much as I do. Block is over 900 every year and their TAFB is usually 3-4x what mine is.

The money is good, but you work your tail off at Southwest. More than the other legacies for sure.

I don’t think we are headed toward binding arbitration at all, that’s something management and union have to agree to.

Did a union source tell you that we can’t meet again until the union does a comprehensive section offer or someone from management?

Why wouldn’t the union just give management all the sections and get this thing moving along?? This isn’t making any sense?

I don't know anyone that makes twice as much as me there in the same seat, they all make 3X my pay blocking about 700-750. Not bad for 2 hotel nights a week.

Because we are in mediation?!?!

So we just don't negotiate and delay getting a contract until when exactly??? when does this stailmate end? Being on ice is a punishment to unions. If we are indeed on ice then how long are we going to let the teamsters keep us on ice? 3 months? 6 months?

You are not making any sense Tom. I guess I shouldn't expect anything else from you, you will drink whatever kool aid the union puts in front of you. We've all got the receipts. You were declaring that AR was going to win and the corruption charges were all just management lies literally the day before AR was ousted and GU took over. You have zero credibility and lack any ability to think for yourself.

If you are correct and the mediator put us on ice and you think we should just stay on ice and refuse to do what the mediator asks then you are more gullible than even I thought possible.