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captnate702 04-19-2026 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 4025354)
This ain't shaping up as no short oil spike....

don’t worry, according to Bitboy this is just a short term economic bump. We still have all the leverage to beat management into getting a legacy contract.

BroncoFtbl 04-19-2026 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 4025354)
This ain't shaping up as no short oil spike....

Welcome back 1980.

tailendcharlie 04-19-2026 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by BroncoFtbl (Post 4025372)
Welcome back 1980.

Force Majure &cash burn rates.....

Donkey Guts 04-19-2026 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by tailendcharlie (Post 4025354)
This ain't shaping up as no short oil spike....

energy crisis for sure.

Bitcoin 04-20-2026 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 4025344)
all that and you didn’t even answer my question??

if everything at Allegiant is as rosy as you say, why are we cancelling hundreds of flights during two of the three months that we make over 75% of our profits???

if we are cancelling hundreds of flights in JUNE and JULY then something terrible is going on with the economy, industry, etc.

The only other time we’ve cancelled flights like this during June and July was Covid.

The answer is in there. They made similar adjustments in other years with high fuel.

When we get a new contract every 10 to 15 years, 6 months to a year is short term.

The company will remain profitable this year just like they did in 2008, 2011-2014 and 2022 when oil was up.

Moist 04-20-2026 04:48 AM

You guys should spend a little less time watching Real Housewives and a little more time updating your logbooks.

Bitcoin 04-20-2026 06:42 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/G3PxdqVn/oil1.jpg




https://i.postimg.cc/28skG7j3/oil2.jpg

nibake 04-22-2026 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by CptGSXR (Post 4025252)
Oh? What part makes the cut in our movie?

The corrupt Toonsters wasting 6 years of negotiating only to be iced for another 4-5 years for a JCBA? The former exco making a deal for a retention bonus without a vote or any input from pilots? How bout the removal of the Exco not for stealing but for trying to make another union business on the side, crossing the aforementioned Toonsters. Maybe it was the new Union Mob Bosses threatening legal action against ALPA drive members? Or even the witch hunt for those that pushed a card drive to get rid of the corrupt and inept union mobsters? I know, it was the rumors and accusations of the 3rd party voting company cheating in favor of the old Exco...that must be it. If not, then it was clearly the drunken Union Mob Boss that was actively screwing negotiations to hurt the company that wouldn't make him Chief Pilot? Or my personal favorite, hiring an old American Pilot that agreed to every single company pass that included forced upgrades (giant no-no for G4 base structure) and company GPS tracking of pilots. Meet the new Exco, same as the old. Currently, there is the drama of MORE SURVEYS!!!!!! But dont let that distract you from the fact there is 'no transparency' or whatever buzzword the keyboard warriors are using this week. You could use the drama on the FB page or WhatsApp even more so than anything on APC (apc is tame by comparison).

All great choices for your Hollywood drama. Hell, pick all of them.

Sounds like it had better be a series rather than just a standalone movie.

Iceman63 04-23-2026 06:22 PM

So how long do we have to get this bridge agreement done? I’ve heard if we don’t get it done before May 13th then we are out of luck until the JCBA. Is this true?

pipercub 04-23-2026 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Iceman63 (Post 4027110)
So how long do we have to get this bridge agreement done? I’ve heard if we don’t get it done before May 13th then we are out of luck until the JCBA. Is this true?

Why would the company even waist Time working on a seperate deal with G4, all the effort will go to the Joint once the deal is done. If they do not accept what the company is offering before the next NMB Neg on the 7th and 8th. Once the company knows the shareholders approved the deal and the the 13th is set in stone. The offer will likely be a take it or leave it at that point. The union leadership has completely ignored answering this question, well along with a lot of others.


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