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tom11011 07-18-2022 02:24 PM

It seems if you left Allegiant right now that you could upgrade at American right around the time our next contract is signed.

TangoIndiaMike1 07-18-2022 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3462973)
It seems if you left Allegiant right now that you could upgrade at American right around the time our next contract is signed.


Just in time for the other majors to get their new contract!


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9easy 07-18-2022 10:36 PM

Gotta love all the senior guys on here trying to convince the junior people to leave. I'm sure it's all out of pure altruism.

Somehow I'm guessing most people who would be interested in the 10 month upgrade at DL for NYC A220, wouldn't be at allegiant in the first place.

G4slumdod 07-19-2022 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by 9easy (Post 3463207)
Gotta love all the senior guys on here trying to convince the junior people to leave. I'm sure it's all out of pure altruism.

Somehow I'm guessing most people who would be interested in the 10 month upgrade at DL for NYC A220, wouldn't be at allegiant in the first place.

QUOTE=9easy;3458938]Unfortunately I think this is the green light to captains who were thinking of going, but waiting for a new contract to hold them back. It's not going to happen, and it's time to move.[/QUOTE]

KC135 07-19-2022 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by 9easy (Post 3463207)
Gotta love all the senior guys on here trying to convince the junior people to leave. I'm sure it's all out of pure altruism.

Somehow I'm guessing most people who would be interested in the 10 month upgrade at DL for NYC A220, wouldn't be at allegiant in the first place.

Honestly I’m just trying to help out and I have nothing to gain. No it won’t help us get a TA if attrition picks up, it’s much cheaper to keep replacing the turnover. What you and I know about the operation and industry is NOT common knowledge unfortunately. The 2021 end of year salary survey was eye opening for most pilots here but it should not have been. The union’s industry contract comparison of our work rules was shocking to a lot even though it shouldn’t have been. Most new hires have never stopped to think if you can keep growing the large bases forever and park 100 planes in SFB for example. When they learn 90%+ of our future growth will be in new bases not announced yet it’s news to them. I’m just trying to keep expectations in check with reality. Are you not flying with depressed FO’s that were told they would get their FL base before training is over, a new TA this year and upgrade in 2-3 years in FL???

bmrd 07-19-2022 01:11 PM

This place is an absolute disaster. Nearly 3 years in, furloughed while my peers weren’t, make significantly less money, company constantly tries to **** you.

To anyone considering coming here, just don’t. It is not worth it.

Jim Rockford 07-19-2022 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by bmrd (Post 3463495)
This place is an absolute disaster. Nearly 3 years in, furloughed while my peers weren’t, make significantly less money, company constantly tries to **** you.

To anyone considering coming here, just don’t. It is not worth it.

So reserve is a b***h……got it! 👍🏻

Be Realistic 07-20-2022 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Jim Rockford (Post 3463669)
So reserve is a b***h……got it! 👍🏻

Way to go making light of a fellow crew members dreadful experience. Maybe we need to focus more on the reserve QOL, being that all new hires will have to experience that, and forget about the HDMWD complaint, being that its just a snotty few who have to worry about it?

Don't allow those who could have a good career else where consider this dump for more than a second without knowing the truth about how little they will make or how they will be abused or how they will never upgrade in FL in the next 10-15 years. Some of us have reason to be stuck here. If only I could go back

V2cut 07-20-2022 11:45 AM

Direct entry captains starting at 250k a year
 
https://onemileatatime.com/news/connect-airlines-pilot-pay/?fbclid=IwAR3qy7l-QRwvm8p_CHNcg7YpyfmvOkC1TpdT_xwUnHS-WQ0hkpBh5i9GdSw

captnate702 07-20-2022 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Be Realistic (Post 3463949)
Way to go making light of a fellow crew members dreadful experience. Maybe we need to focus more on the reserve QOL, being that all new hires will have to experience that, and forget about the HDMWD complaint, being that its just a snotty few who have to worry about it?

Don't allow those who could have a good career else where consider this dump for more than a second without knowing the truth about how little they will make or how they will be abused or how they will never upgrade in FL in the next 10-15 years. Some of us have reason to be stuck here. If only I could go back

You don’t need to be stuck here. According to some on here, before 2024 you could be making $400-$500k at AA with their 10 month captain upgrade.

As bad as QOL is on reserve, it’s still better here imo than at any other airline. I for one appreciate the home every night schedule (even if it’s not every night, the fact that it’s well over 90% system wide is pretty damn good if you value home every night which myself and my family do).


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