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At what point is this not "bargaining in good faith" ?
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Originally Posted by Losamigos
(Post 3458940)
At what point is this not "bargaining in good faith" ?
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Originally Posted by 9easy
(Post 3458938)
Unfortunately I think this is the green light to captains who were thinking of going, but waiting for a new contract to hold them back. It's not going to happen, and it's time to move.
I also wonder how much of this is due to our weak contract and the 737 transition. The company can abuse the language in the contract to help manage staffing with seat locks and displacement bids. |
Originally Posted by FreshWater
(Post 3453515)
Impossible. Everybody knows when given the opportunity to cast an anonymous vote pilots will always choose any pay raise, even at the expense of any other section.
That’s what UPS did for so long that all they have now is dolla bills! |
A tiger doesn’t change his stripes, and neither does Maury Gallagher!
Maurice Gallagher is virulently anti-union and his number one goal is not to get a contract. “ Unionization is one of those things that clogs the arteries and makes you less quick and not as nimble as you need to be on top of your game.” - MG Anti-Union Allegiant CEO Lives His Worst Dream: Teamster Pilots https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed...h=58d5a3e3259f Might want to dust off those kabuki dance shoes! 🤣 |
Originally Posted by 9easy
(Post 3458938)
Unfortunately I think this is the green light to captains who were thinking of going, but waiting for a new contract to hold them back. It's not going to happen, and it's time to move.
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Originally Posted by 160to4
(Post 3459016)
That’s what UPS did for so long that all they have now is dolla bills!
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Originally Posted by tom11011
(Post 3458947)
It’s really our own faults for expecting Allegiant to be like other airlines but that has never been the case and it never will.
The union negotiating committee is committed and hard working but also dreadfully inexperienced. No one on our side has ever been in section 6 negotiations (including our lawyer). Plus, Management’s playbook is to slow play and stall negotiations so we get a raise in 2025 at the earliest. Anybody who actually thought we’d get a deal done soon is naive. AR won’t pass rates or compensation until UA or AA get a TA ratified because of the leapfrogging that happened last time we were the first to agree and then got left in the dust. Exco doesn’t want a deal done soon and neither does management. This whole dog and pony show was to try and get through the summer and wait for the recession to hit. Honestly at this point management probably got what they wanted. All the ops issues we’ve had have been caused by flight attendants not pilots. Management is probably more focused on flight attendant getting done because that will help the operation more than pilot pay and it will cost a fraction. |
Originally Posted by G4slumdod
(Post 3459028)
So you're leaving or just telling everyone else to?
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And you guys accuse me of doom and gloom all the time. Guess I called this one.
Yes, this is your cue to update your applications. This bus is going nowhere and you're going to miss the next one if you don't get going. |
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