Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3598418)

What does that mean? You saying union leadership are interviewing with the legacies? Or you saying some will be stepping down?

Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3597700)

Well said.

I'm here because I'm concerned that prospective pilots and newhires at Allegiant are being lied to and sold a fantasy that they will someday have the great life of home every night where you want to live, fly when and where you want, and take vacation when you want, for 1/4 of a mil a year that the super senior pilots here have and love to brag about.

This travel company is a pyramid scheme. You will only have that life if you got in on the ground floor 10-15 years ago. It's different from other airlines because with a young pilot group there are very few retirements, and the senior folks, who have it so good and are vocally selling this place here to keep the crumbling foundation of their pyramid intact, aren't leaving. Anyone hired today probably won't exceed 30% in the company in their career unless they were hired in their 20s and spend 30+ years here. There is practically zero growth potential here now. It's about to become America's most stagnant airline. You will spend many, many years on the bottom of the pyramid, working under the lowest pay and crappiest work rules in the industry.

The mods have told me they don't like my tone anymore, so I'll make this my last post on the topic.

I left Allegiant well over a year ago to work at a legacy airline with a Florida base not far from my Space Coast home. I have zero regrets. I'll be back to A320 CA in a year or two and make back every penny I lost by leaving and then some. I'll still have 10-ish years left too.

I hope anyone looking at this airline (travel company) reads this sometime in the future and seriously ponders it, not what the recruiters and scared seniors are saying.

Best of luck to you all.

Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 3598435)

Yes and Yes.

Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 3598457)

LMAO! Ironic coming from the tool that told me (born and raised DSM - always commuted my entire 12 year career - this is my home and always will be) that I was such an idiot to leave given the DSM base.

I can absolutely say, with 100% certainty, I have far better QOL commuting 45 mins to ORD 3 times a month and doing (the absolute HORROR) or 3-4 day trips. I would have left if G4 had a DSM base Day 1.

Ive refrained for the last 3ish years since I left, but to any prospective new hires considering G4. You seriously SERIOUSLY need to truly understand wtf hour getting involved with. Sadly, I don’t think many truly grasp the amount of utter trash you will encounter. I left (at that time) a dying Air Wisconsin. Make no mistake. I was treated FAR better and with FAR more respect at a regional than the almighty Major Airline that is Allegiant. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3598487)

I’m very curious to see which union leaders are stepping down…

Originally Posted by akulahunter (Post 3598652)

You should find out in about 2-3 months. It will most likely be more than one.

Originally Posted by akulahunter (Post 3598652)

You should find out in about 2-3 months. It will most likely be more than one.

Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 3598457)

LMAO! Ironic coming from the tool that told me (born and raised DSM - always commuted my entire 12 year career - this is my home and always will be) that I was such an idiot to leave given the DSM base.

I can absolutely say, with 100% certainty, I have far better QOL commuting 45 mins to ORD 3 times a month and doing (the absolute HORROR) or 3-4 day trips. I would have left if G4 had a DSM base Day 1.

Ive refrained for the last 3ish years since I left, but to any prospective new hires considering G4. You seriously SERIOUSLY need to truly understand wtf hour getting involved with. Sadly, I don’t think many truly grasp the amount of utter trash you will encounter. I left (at that time) a dying Air Wisconsin. Make no mistake. I was treated FAR better and with FAR more respect at a regional than the almighty Major Airline that is Allegiant. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3597700)

Well said.

I'm here because I'm concerned that prospective pilots and newhires at Allegiant are being lied to and sold a fantasy that they will someday have the great life of home every night where you want to live, fly when and where you want, and take vacation when you want, for 1/4 of a mil a year that the super senior pilots here have and love to brag about.

This travel company is a pyramid scheme. You will only have that life if you got in on the ground floor 10-15 years ago. It's different from other airlines because with a young pilot group there are very few retirements, and the senior folks, who have it so good and are vocally selling this place here to keep the crumbling foundation of their pyramid intact, aren't leaving. Anyone hired today probably won't exceed 30% in the company in their career unless they were hired in their 20s and spend 30+ years here. There is practically zero growth potential here now. It's about to become America's most stagnant airline. You will spend many, many years on the bottom of the pyramid, working under the lowest pay and crappiest work rules in the industry.

The mods have told me they don't like my tone anymore, so I'll make this my last post on the topic.

I left Allegiant well over a year ago to work at a legacy airline with a Florida base not far from my Space Coast home. I have zero regrets. I'll be back to A320 CA in a year or two and make back every penny I lost by leaving and then some. I'll still have 10-ish years left too.

I hope anyone looking at this airline (travel company) reads this sometime in the future and seriously ponders it, not what the recruiters and scared seniors are saying.

Best of luck to you all.