Originally Posted by ClearedILS (Post 3613965)

Does Allegiant offer the ATP-CPT course for those who need it?

Originally Posted by ClearedILS (Post 3613965)

Does Allegiant offer the ATP-CPT course for those who need it?

Originally Posted by Jab2019 (Post 3628354)

How’s Allegiant looking for someone who lives 45 minutes away from Flint? How junior is FNT?

considering applying, just testing the waters

thanks

Originally Posted by Jab2019 (Post 3628354)

How’s Allegiant looking for someone who lives 45 minutes away from Flint? How junior is FNT?

considering applying, just testing the waters

thanks

Originally Posted by Pilotchute (Post 3631289)

Quick question if anyone knows. Put my app in over a month ago and not heard anything. Is this normal?

Originally Posted by Captainbfv (Post 3631414)

Depends, what are you flight times and quals? But yeah, if you meet the mins its nuts they haven't jumped all over your app.

Originally Posted by Pilotchute (Post 3631289)

Quick question if anyone knows. Put my app in over a month ago and not heard anything. Is this normal?

Originally Posted by Pilotchute (Post 3631289)

Quick question if anyone knows. Put my app in over a month ago and not heard anything. Is this normal?

Originally Posted by Pilotchute (Post 3631550)

3000 total, 1500 FO 121.

Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3545163)

Who exactly are "the slaves belowdecks"? Are they the reserve pilots that have consistently had the lowest reserve utilization in the industry? Are they the junior line holders that get stuck working every Friday/Sunday of the month?

Are there some reserve pilots that get jerked around? absolutely, I have repeated it to everyone who asks that sitting in reserve in FL would be terrible at least four months out of the year...TERRIBLE.

Sitting reserve in a small base is incredibly cush. You get called out a couple times a week. Some small bases (BLI) the reserves don't even fly enough to get their landings.

If you want to liken sitting reserve in FL to being a "slave belowdeck who must keep rowing" then whatever. I think it might be a little out of touch, but I don't judge. Siting reserve in LAS or IWA can be a pain, but i still pick up RAPs to pad my pay and roll the dice because its still not that bad and in most cases its free money.

And for new hires, who are most certainly going to a small base, sitting reserve is generally pretty nice. If you're trying to get to FL, I'd forget about it because your QOL will be way different than most of the pilots across the system. Just my two cents.

Originally Posted by Applesnoranges (Post 3676205)

How long are call out times while on reserve?

Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 (Post 3677636)

How is allegiant's training department? Instructor quality? APD quality? syllabus and how they lay out everything for you to study?

How long is training?

Where is it located?

Any breaks? any delay for IOE?

and most importantly, is it true everyone (incl new hires) are getting an added $4,024 on top of their base $4,152 monthyl min guarnatee for a total of ~$8,176/month?

Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3677645)

the added pay is a retention bonus that will be paid when we get a contract. It’s an agreement between union and management. Management is accruing for it (money is in an account so it’s not an IOU) and sends “updates” of how much your accrual/retention bonus has in it.

BUT you won’t see that additional money until we have TA on our contract.

Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 (Post 3677646)

oh wow so its not even in effect yet, thats a huge bummer. The first year pay, and just pay at general at allegiant is what is really holding me back.

Anyway still curious about the training department and all that

Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 (Post 3677636)

How is allegiant's training department? Instructor quality? APD quality? syllabus and how they lay out everything for you to study?

How long is training?

Where is it located?

Any breaks? any delay for IOE?

and most importantly, is it true everyone (incl new hires) are getting an added $4,024 on top of their base $4,152 monthyl min guarnatee for a total of ~$8,176/month?

Originally Posted by crjflyer0023 (Post 3677646)

oh wow so its not even in effect yet, thats a huge bummer. The first year pay, and just pay at general at allegiant is what is really holding me back.

Anyway still curious about the training department and all that

Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 3677859)

Training department is fine. Non AQP, still has an oral, need to do everything near perfect during the type ride (but the airbus makes that easy...not sure about the 737). There have been a lot of failures but that seems more a reflection of the company scraping the bottom of the barrel more than anything else.

Originally Posted by rdneckpilot (Post 3680410)

the training department is not fine. Well as of 2022 it was not fine. Five airlines on my resume and allegiant is on the bottom of the list. That program was run by a bunch of clowns.

Originally Posted by rdneckpilot (Post 3680410)

the training department is not fine. Well as of 2022 it was not fine. Five airlines on my resume and allegiant is on the bottom of the list. That program was run by a bunch of clowns.

Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3680521)

training dept is way different. They finally brought in some of our most experienced APDs to run the place. It’s gotten much better.

not saying it’s awesome, or as good as other shops, but it is not a disaster. And definitely not run by clowns.

Originally Posted by KC135 (Post 3681352)

There is a class every 3 weeks indefinitely, they try to fill to 24. The last few have been close to full. They will skip Chistmas week so 120 more by the end of the year.

Originally Posted by captnate702 (Post 3681354)

Still amazes me that we are having 20-25 new hire classes now.

Originally Posted by august222014 (Post 3681531)

Why amazed ? they don't need 20-25 a month or they can't find ? thanks

Originally Posted by rlmclaudio (Post 3682499)

i got an interview scheduled with allegiant. Im curious if my currency lapse of 2 years would be a problem. I got 3000 Jet time and 1000 of than on the A320 however my last flight was 2021 , was unable to fly due to family /immigration reasons but i am back now and ready to fly - any airline! Should i push through the interview knowing i might be wasting their time?
Thanks

Originally Posted by rlmclaudio (Post 3682499)

i got an interview scheduled with allegiant. Im curious if my currency lapse of 2 years would be a problem. I got 3000 Jet time and 1000 of than on the A320 however my last flight was 2021 , was unable to fly due to family /immigration reasons but i am back now and ready to fly - any airline! Should i push through the interview knowing i might be wasting their time?
Thanks

Originally Posted by BusBoe (Post 3686862)

Is it a wise choice to leave Mesa to go to Allegiant? Would it be a good bridge to get to a legacy?

Allegiant pay is really crappy, and I make at Mesa ($140k/year as line holding FO) way more than I'll ever make at allegiant FO. Granted I do pickup open time, but still... So? Do legacies hire from allegiant as much as they do Spirit?

Originally Posted by BusBoe (Post 3686862)

Is it a wise choice to leave Mesa to go to Allegiant? Would it be a good bridge to get to a legacy?

Allegiant pay is really crappy, and I make at Mesa ($140k/year as line holding FO) way more than I'll ever make at allegiant FO. Granted I do pickup open time, but still... So? Do legacies hire from allegiant as much as they do Spirit?

Are new hires being out in 737 now? (do they even operate that now)

Is there a lot of open time to pickup?

Is there a lot of 4 day trips or are all majority day trips?

Junior bases?

Originally Posted by BusBoe (Post 3686862)

Is it a wise choice to leave Mesa to go to Allegiant? Would it be a good bridge to get to a legacy?

Allegiant pay is really crappy, and I make at Mesa ($140k/year as line holding FO) way more than I'll ever make at allegiant FO. Granted I do pickup open time, but still... So? Do legacies hire from allegiant as much as they do Spirit?

Are new hires being out in 737 now? (do they even operate that now)

Is there a lot of open time to pickup?

Is there a lot of 4 day trips or are all majority day trips?

Junior bases?

Originally Posted by BusBoe (Post 3686862)

Is it a wise choice to leave Mesa to go to Allegiant? Would it be a good bridge to get to a legacy?

Is there a lot of 4 day trips or are all majority day trips?

Junior bases?

Originally Posted by pipercub (Post 3687668)

If you want to go to a legacy stay at Mesa and update apps. You could delay any advancement to a legacy if you have any hiccup in training or run-in with the disciplinary thing at Allegiant. Probably better to spend time going to meet-ups. 737 are not flying yet and will probably be next year in Florida, barring any more delays in cert and or Boeing delivery schedules.

Originally Posted by flydiamond (Post 3529016)

Reserve versus line holder honestly doesn't matter much for QOL especially in a small base not in FL. You may have a bit of a shorter leash but you'll prob work a whole lot less (which may be good being 1 hour away) and make just a little less, especially on 1st year pay. Time to line is unpredictable, depends how many people quit, if more aircraft make their way into the base, and if the senior FOs bid reserve. For November the #1 FO bid reserve. I'd be more concerned about the potential for involv TDY as the plug but I don't think it's too common out of ABE.

As far as time to get the base, zero spots in ABE were offered to the October 31st class. There is one ABE FO vacancy on the current vacancy whose results will be used for both the Nov 21 and Dec 5th class. I see that one spot possibly making its way to new hires, but very high chance that if it does, someone in the Nov 21 class or senior to you in the Dec 5th class gets it, in which case it will be about 2-4 months *minimum* post training for you to get your base. What if 4 people in the Nov 21 class want ABE? It's definitely playing Russian roulette...you could end up waiting 6 or 12 months. Thats how long some guys have been having to wait for IND, or TYS, or AUS, which all used to be junior bases. There are currently no training delays whatsoever, so with future vacancies running several months out you *will* commute if you don't instantly get your base, and it will be very rough especially since much of the commute time will be over spring break and summer when reserves often only get 10 days off. Run a hypothetical commute to BLI, which 3 pilots are faced with in the near future looking at the seniority list.

For reference, only 1 of 13 new hires in the last class got their base of choice (ATW) out the gate. I can't think of a time it's ever been that low. This statistic should be very concerning to anyone reading.