Co-President's resignation
01-29-2023, 12:47 PM
#11
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It is a step in the right direction but it is a day late and a dollar short.
If we merge it is not going to be with a desirable airline. We have no premium gates or time slots, we bring very little to the table, and it is likely that soon we will have a financial black hole in the form of a resort, We are NOT going to go out of business but even with an industry-standard contract, we will have a very hard time maintaining our current size for the next 5 plus years. At the end of the day, a good pilot contract alone will not overcome poor executive leadership and the anti-pilot culture. Stagnation will keep the bottom moving.
If we merge it is not going to be with a desirable airline. We have no premium gates or time slots, we bring very little to the table, and it is likely that soon we will have a financial black hole in the form of a resort, We are NOT going to go out of business but even with an industry-standard contract, we will have a very hard time maintaining our current size for the next 5 plus years. At the end of the day, a good pilot contract alone will not overcome poor executive leadership and the anti-pilot culture. Stagnation will keep the bottom moving.
01-29-2023, 01:54 PM
#12
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 910
Originally Posted by sjflyer
It is a step in the right direction but it is a day late and a dollar short.
If we merge it is not going to be with a desirable airline. We have no premium gates or time slots, we bring very little to the table, and it is likely that soon we will have a financial black hole in the form of a resort, We are NOT going to go out of business but even with an industry-standard contract, we will have a very hard time maintaining our current size for the next 5 plus years. At the end of the day, a good pilot contract alone will not overcome poor executive leadership and the anti-pilot culture. Stagnation will keep the bottom moving.
If we merge it is not going to be with a desirable airline. We have no premium gates or time slots, we bring very little to the table, and it is likely that soon we will have a financial black hole in the form of a resort, We are NOT going to go out of business but even with an industry-standard contract, we will have a very hard time maintaining our current size for the next 5 plus years. At the end of the day, a good pilot contract alone will not overcome poor executive leadership and the anti-pilot culture. Stagnation will keep the bottom moving.
01-29-2023, 02:59 PM
#13
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 46
Originally Posted by tailendcharlie
Even with an industry-standard contract why come here? The small bases are tenuous at best & would only interest a minority of applicants. The vast majority of people want to live near large cities & all the other carriers offer faster advancement, more choices, and day trips if you want them. Maybe not all day trips all the time but it’s a senior Allegiant pilot lie that a job at a legacy means 12 nights/mo. in hotels.
01-29-2023, 03:07 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 910
Originally Posted by LimaF
Not sure that’s a lie. What’s the truth though from your perspective?
01-29-2023, 03:14 PM
#15
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 1,029
Originally Posted by 9easy
Possibly a bit of
1. Someone’s gotta take the fall for the stock price being down 50% while competing airlines are in the green
2. Merger incoming
1. Someone’s gotta take the fall for the stock price being down 50% while competing airlines are in the green
2. Merger incoming
01-29-2023, 03:17 PM
#16
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Posts: 1,029
Originally Posted by tailendcharlie
Even with an industry-standard contract why come here? The small bases are tenuous at best & would only interest a minority of applicants. The vast majority of people want to live near large cities & all the other carriers offer faster advancement, more choices, and day trips if you want them. Maybe not all day trips all the time but it’s a senior Allegiant pilot lie that a job at a legacy means 12 nights/mo. in hotels.
01-29-2023, 04:42 PM
#18
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Joined APC: Feb 2012
Posts: 550
ALGT = $1.6 market cap
100 MAX planes at a $5m at pandemic discount… worth $500m, sell for $400m
sunseeker sell for $400m
Buy ALGT for $400m. Get 1100 pilots with similar bases and hope 80% of them stay. $1.2B in various assets, minus sunseeker. Cash flow positive deal.
100 MAX planes at a $5m at pandemic discount… worth $500m, sell for $400m
sunseeker sell for $400m
Buy ALGT for $400m. Get 1100 pilots with similar bases and hope 80% of them stay. $1.2B in various assets, minus sunseeker. Cash flow positive deal.
01-30-2023, 08:12 AM
#19
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Airbus CA
Posts: 910
Originally Posted by Beech Dude
Junior Legacy FO. Reserve, In-base. Average 5 nights away/mo.
01-30-2023, 08:46 AM
#20
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Captain for Skyhawks
Posts: 482
Originally Posted by Beech Dude
Junior Legacy FO. Reserve, In-base. Average 5 nights away/mo.
I think most folks that have had overnights remember them from the regional days. Min rest , 8 leg days ,crappy van to a crappy hotel rinse and repeat. Over nights at a legacy are totally different. Longer overnights, downtown and even sometimes in all you can eat resorts in major entertainment centers of the towns. . FA deal with their own hotels. You and the Fo just go to the hotel without having to wait.
after a year or two you can hold a schedule to get whatever days off you want too. Go wide body and get 18 days off
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