The pilots are pulled from the trips to do this because of the timeline, and additionally it is work that the company would need to hire people to do.

The company pays for these trip drops, which is also fairly industry standard. Just as they pay for safety and FOQA committee work. The company gains certain efficiencies and convenience from PBS, so they should cover the cost of the labor to handle these tasks.

At our operation, this work could not be realistically accomplished on a layover. I believe you that it worked at Republic, but that was probably different software, and the needs of the solution may not have been as robust. It sometimes takes a lot of work to generate a solution, requiring back-and forth discussion with the company crew planners.

 

Sounds highly illegal. Performing company work while technically on rest?

I’d hope to have an ALPA expert in the office working on the schedule instead of some poor schmuck hitting the solve button once and then try to get rest for their 0400 van time.

 

Our FAA office feels that any such work counts as company duty and is subject to 117. Other feds may see it differently.

 

Welcome to the life of a Toonster. Scummy union is scummy. Flew with a couple guys that did this, they just kept hitting solve till they liked what they got. And trust me, it wasn't during rest.......

 

I am well over 30, this is 3rd career for me

 

Still may not be worth it. Many well over 30 pilots looking to leave.

 

to your point…they are already there doing the thing. I, on the other hand, am not, so I am at a point where I will take what I can get.

 

THIS RIGHT HERE has been the difference between you guys and us. That under ALL prior leadership the working relationship has been fairly toxic... Was management collaborative at all times? or fair? NO. But after 4 airlines management is pretty much the same everywhere, what makes the difference is having a Union leadership that's not just looking to fan the flames. Unfortunately the IBTs motto appears to be "Bring them to their knees", and nothing gets done. Hell, the last election the current Eboard basically campaigned on taking a different approach to negotiations and collaborating. The opposing slate, and its supporters were more "Fight!", "burn it to the ground".

Hell, even recently the current NC decided to move towards the company's request on PBS, yet, they are currently negotiating and discussing guardrails, pay, and other things that will alleviate the pilot group when/if the company decides to unstack up to 70%. Opposers of the current Eboard or people that for too long believed all the IBT BS propaganda were already screaming "CONCESSIONS! CONCESSIONS! CONCESSIONS".

As someone before you just said, we have to give this Eboard the benefit of the doubt at this time. We need to lock something down and soon, and personally I do NOT believe it will be concessionary or "The company mailer".

 

Dont mind Brian, as someone once said to me, he’s a weather vane…he was a Robles fan boy until he wasn’t, then a JR fan boy until he wasn’t, an IBT and GU fan boy until he wasn’t. Now he’s an RJ and current NC fan boy…

 

The collaborative relationship did not occur overnight, it took a lot of time and patience on both sides to come to mutual understanding and that we were working toward the same goals. Sometimes there is serious disagreement, but the engagement remains professional.