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Old 09-11-2014 | 03:29 AM
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Thanks for the heads up. I appreciate it.
Another day in the airline business. Unforutnately, it seems.
Old 09-11-2014 | 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CLMP
As far as benefits, it's near the bottom of the barrel with respect to other airlines. Our medical "insurance" is a high deductible plan that is basically catastrophic coverage. Unfortunately, many other companies are heading that way as well. Dental is middle of the road and vision used to be good but we switched providers and I haven't used it yet. Very low match on the 401(k) at 4%. For a family, you'll pay about $350/month for all of it (not including HSA contributions).

The training department is getting better but it is overwhelmed now. And yes, it has been described by many as a "testing" department.
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Old 09-11-2014 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Hovernut
Training pay is now 70 hour guarantee. Still no accommodations or rental car for Ground School, but it appears they're putting folks up when they start CPT's & Sims.
Pretty wild that the NH class of 19 that started last Friday is going to the 757 & AB!! I'm sure there are plenty of FOs out on the Line that would've liked to have been able to bid for those slots. Guess they've gotta remain 'flexible!' :/

Unless they are either seat locked or no one else has it in their bid choices. Maybe someone more industrious can verify.
Old 09-11-2014 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by crxpilot
Unless they are either seat locked or no one else has it in their bid choices. Maybe someone more industrious can verify.
I know of at least one senior FO who I'm pretty sure has 757 bid. I don't know if he's been awarded it or not though.
Old 09-11-2014 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Xbone
I get it, just happy to get out of the regionals.
Its surprising what some people will do to "improve" their "status."

Originally Posted by AZbound
The majority of our pilots have their apps out, but it takes time for the phone to ring. It's shocking to me there are airline pilots out there that don't understand this concept.
You'd think they'd remember from their first job hunt. I remember to this day the stress of trying to go from the military to the airlines.

Originally Posted by Xbone
No kidding, a favorite retort from the pogue’s and the like. “You should just feel lucky to have a job”, or “If you don’t like it, then just leave.”
Those are the guys angling for a management job.

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That’s the beauty of not being constrained by contractual obligations. The situation is always fluid, thereby needing unlimited flexibility. How nice.
"Indecision is the key to flexibility."
Old 09-11-2014 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by labbats
They are losing so many good people every week.

In 2015....

United to hire around 100/mo
Delta to hire 85/mo
AA/USAir to hire (?)/mo

Yet they want to stand in front of recurrent and tell people that the scheduling proposal by the union will never pass in any way. They want to continue trying to get courts to overturn our wins. They want to make Merlot run a PBS system that is in no way is PBS.

I don't want to leave but this week is their last chance for me and many others I know to see a clear change in philosophy.
Me too. I am getting my resume together. At first I thought of it as their negotiating tactics to delay and treat it all like a joke. Now it is just becoming insulting. People are pouring their heart and soul into this effort, just like we did to help build this place. To be so dismissive is just an insult. Many of us have been here years longer than a lot of our management. We put a lot of effort into carrying the operation when everything was in complete disarray. For years we did the job of every other department and to some extent continue to today. All we ever asked for is a fair and reasonable contract. They are proving to be completely beyond simple reasoning. It is going to get ugly. I might be here for it or I might just get the applications out and see what happens.

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Old 09-11-2014 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Autothrust
Me too. I am getting my resume together. At first I thought of it as their negotiating tactics to delay and treat it all like a joke. Now it is just becoming insulting. People are pouring their heart and soul into this effort, just like we did to help build this place. To be so dismissive is just an insult. Many of us have been here years longer than a lot of our management. We put a lot of effort into carrying the operation when everything was in complete disarray. For years we did the job of every other department and to some extent continue to today. All we ever asked for is a fair and reasonable contract. They are proving to be completely beyond simple reasoning. It is going to get ugly. I might be here for it or I might just get the applications out and see what happens.
Right behind ya Thrust! I'm done. Apps going out next week. Too embarrassing of a place to work.
Old 09-11-2014 | 10:03 AM
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Alright, its me, Dawg, AZ and now Autothrust who are disgruntled with g4 emt. That’s now a grand total of four g4 pilots that don’t like the actions of our emt. I think I’m starting to see a trend here?
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Originally Posted by Xbone
Alright, its me, Dawg, AZ and now Autothrust who are disgruntled with g4 emt. That’s now a grand total of four g4 pilots that don’t like the actions of our emt. I think I’m starting to see a trend here?
What am I, chopped liver?
Old 09-11-2014 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Xbone
Alright, its me, Dawg, AZ and now Autothrust who are disgruntled with g4 emt. That’s now a grand total of four g4 pilots that don’t like the actions of our emt. I think I’m starting to see a trend here?
Another one here to add to that list.
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