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itsmytime 08-11-2017 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2408978)
So the airlines are just going to massively shrink?

Pilots can never be happy. In the midst of the biggest hiring boom ever, someone always has to remind us that it won't last forever. Between the made up threat of age 67, or reminder of terrorist attacks, or war. And while they are right, it won't last forever (nothing does) everyone is fully aware that things can change on a moments notice in this industry, without someone adding it as a caveat to every thread.

CaptOveur 08-12-2017 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2407500)
OP - There's an entire thread about getting hired where guys have put down their qualifications when they got the major job. There's dozens, and perhaps hundreds, of resumes listed. The airlines also put out some averages. Basically the median guy has about 3000-4000 hrs PIC and 5000-7500 hrs total. Most of them are jet qualified, or turboprop qualified, in several different aircraft. The number of single engine turboprop pilots getting hired might be zero, especially with 2500 hrs TT.

Which thread would this be in? Thx

Thedude 08-12-2017 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by itsmytime (Post 2409070)
Pilots can never be happy. In the midst of the biggest hiring boom ever, someone always has to remind us that it won't last forever. Between the made up threat of age 67, or reminder of terrorist attacks, or war. And while they are right, it won't last forever (nothing does) everyone is fully aware that things can change on a moments notice in this industry, without someone adding it as a caveat to every thread.

Guess someone didn't like the dose of reality to the thread.
AA (and others) have a tendency to hire up until they furlough.

A word to the wise for all new hires everywhere. Make sure you have a furlough fund and hopefully you won't need to use it.

itsmytime 08-12-2017 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 2409188)
Guess someone didn't like the dose of reality to the thread.
AA (and others) have a tendency to hire up until they furlough.

A word to the wise for all new hires everywhere. Make sure you have a furlough fund and hopefully you won't need to use it.

Nobody minds reality, but let's have it on both sides of the coin. So if bombs fall on NK, does everybody at the airlines stop aging? Retirements are coming regardless of what happens in the world. You would need massive shrinkage of over 5% a year to not need to hire for retirements. And that's just the mandatories. To say nothing of those that leave before 65 or lose their medical, LTD etc.

flysooner9 08-12-2017 06:37 AM

I still think some people don't grasp the number of retirements the next 10 years.

FlyingOkra 08-12-2017 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by CaptOveur (Post 2409187)
Which thread would this be in? Thx

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/m...een-hired.html

Riverside 08-12-2017 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2408688)
I know thats what is competitive now, i was just wondering when/if that number would make it down in the 3,000 range.

Well, another flaw in your plan is the 1k tpic. Can't think of anyone that requires it anymore. So with 3k you might get lucky with Virgin, Alaska, and or Frontier.

SheepDogg 08-12-2017 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 2409458)
Well, another flaw in your plan is the 1k tpic. Can't think of anyone that requires it anymore. So with 3k you might get lucky with Virgin, Alaska, and or Frontier.

Big difference between required minimums and competitive minimums. Only about 5% of applicants are hired without a significant amount of PIC experience.

CaptOveur 08-12-2017 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingOkra (Post 2409317)

Cool thanks

Sliceback 08-12-2017 03:54 PM

DL 2015(?) civilian avg was 7600 TT and 4100 PIC.

That's the median guy. That's what I'd be shooting for.


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