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Old 07-30-2017, 08:30 PM   #1
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Default Getting Hired with No 121 time

I know AA and other majors are hiring off the street now. Is there really any chance of being hired off the street? Currently 135 with many years of experience. Cant afford to take pay cut to go to regionals at this point. Around 2500 TT almost 1000 Turbine (Mostly PC-12) Training Captain experience.
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Old 07-30-2017, 08:38 PM   #2
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Maybe JetBlue. They have hired many turboprop folks lately who have zero jet time since it is harder for them to bail to United or Delta. Southwest might have given you a shot with your part 135 customer-service experience, but it appears that you lack jet time unless you failed to mention that in your post. Also, your total time is super low. United's newhire average is 4500 TT to 6500 TT. Delta hires 3000 hr TT, but it's a far cry from the norm--more so the exception. You have zero chance with American right now. They hire fighter pilots and 15000 hr TT regional captains with everyone else coming through the flow-through regionals. Obtain the jet time, go part 121 and take the pay cut. Also don't forget VOLUNTEER every chance that you have available to you.
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Old 07-30-2017, 08:40 PM   #3
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Your quals are good, but not very competitive in today's market. Just my opinion. You should try to obtain more AMEL turbine PIC IMHO.
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Old 07-31-2017, 08:58 AM   #4
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Perhaps in several years when the pickings are even slimmer, PC-12 time will unlock the door here, but unless you've got an uncle in management, I can't see it happening today.

I'd do whatever you can to get some different, more attractive to the legacy carriers time. Waiting around for the call while flying what you're flying could cost you thousands of seniority numbers and hundreds of thousands of dollars. Good luck.
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Old 07-31-2017, 02:15 PM   #5
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United has been hiring a lot of 135 & 91 corporate guys in an effort to diversify their new hire pool. I would definitely recommend trying for them. Job fairs and active volunteering is a must.
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I know AA and other majors are hiring off the street now. Is there really any chance of being hired off the street? Currently 135 with many years of experience. Cant afford to take pay cut to go to regionals at this point. Around 2500 TT almost 1000 Turbine (Mostly PC-12) Training Captain experience.
You've got a better chance applying than you do not applying...

I'd also shoot for the U/LCCs and ACMIs while you start saving for that paycut so you can survive as a regional pilot if those avenues don't work.
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well, we did just hire a 23 year old.
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:09 PM   #8
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well, we did just hire a 23 year old.
I wonder who's kid THAT is? I know check airman who couldn't even get their kids an interview. I think it's a pretty clear indication of how screwed up the hiring process is here.
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Move to a corporate jet time, get some jet PIC. SE Turboprop won't do it now and probably for quite some time. You should be able to get a CL350, G280 job with that resume.

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Old 07-31-2017, 08:58 PM   #10
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Thanks Guys.

I figured the lack of jet time would be the kicker. I'm trying to make that happen now. Maybe a year or two and 600 Jet time will put me over the edge. I appreciate the insight.
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