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Al Czervik 02-21-2018 06:49 AM

Jumpseat Poll (Vote here)
 
Want to be heard? Send soundoffs and vote here:

(If it doesn’t load just sign in to APA and search “Jumpseat poll”)

https://www.alliedpilots.org/News/ID/5856

A330FoodCritic 02-21-2018 07:04 AM

Thanks for the link, just voted for current.

Just noticed, LGA Poll, well I voted anyway.

Al Czervik 02-21-2018 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by A330FoodCritic (Post 2533544)
Thanks for the link, just voted for current.

Just noticed, LGA Poll, well I voted anyway.

Anyone can vote.

Looks like Westbrook was not being totally honest:

There has been much discussion about the Flight Deck Jumpseat. In June of 2015 the APA Board of Directors tasked American Airlines to create a hybrid version of listing for the jumpseat. The Hybrid System for reservation of the Integrated Voice Response (IVR) System for the Jumpseat would be as follows:

7 days and 4 hours from the day of travel (the 4 hours was an AA IT issue) anyone could reserve a jumpseat. At 3 days prior to the flight, the jumpseat would be awarded to the most senior pilot who reserved the jumpseat during the initial first 4 days and 4 hours. Inside of three days prior to the flight, if no pilot had signed up for the jumpseat, it would be awarded to the first pilot requesting the reservation.

American's IT Department has had some difficulties creating what was originally required by the the APA Board of Directors, but recently APA and AA have begun discussing developement of the hybrid system. Considering much time has elapsed since the original direction was given, we wanted to poll the LGA Domicile to see what type of Jumpseat Reservation System you would prefer. Please take the time to complete this simple 1 question poll.

Arado 234 02-21-2018 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2533548)
Anyone can vote.

Looks like Westbrook was not being totally honest:

There has been much discussion about the Flight Deck Jumpseat. In June of 2015 the APA Board of Directors tasked American Airlines to create a hybrid version of listing for the jumpseat. The Hybrid System for reservation of the Integrated Voice Response (IVR) System for the Jumpseat would be as follows:

7 days and 4 hours from the day of travel (the 4 hours was an AA IT issue) anyone could reserve a jumpseat. At 3 days prior to the flight, the jumpseat would be awarded to the most senior pilot who reserved the jumpseat during the initial first 4 days and 4 hours. Inside of three days prior to the flight, if no pilot had signed up for the jumpseat, it would be awarded to the first pilot requesting the reservation.

American's IT Department has had some difficulties creating what was originally required by the the APA Board of Directors, but recently APA and AA have begun discussing developement of the hybrid system. Considering much time has elapsed since the original direction was given, we wanted to poll the LGA Domicile to see what type of Jumpseat Reservation System you would prefer. Please take the time to complete this simple 1 question poll.

Too simple. We need to take the last four digits of the pilot's SSN divide it by the sum of the seniority number square root multiplied by the annual $$$ contribution. That sum is being multiplied by the numbers of Crandall pictures above the bed and jumpsuit-styled pj's in your primary home. That's your jumpseat priority number, but only until three days ahead of the flight. Then you have to reverse the process by using the average hours a day wearing your hat while flying and divide the above amount of pictures and pj's from your second home. If you don't have one, well ... you're screwed! But no worries, you'll be senior one day, son!

jcountry 02-21-2018 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2533548)
Anyone can vote.

Looks like Westbrook was not being totally honest:

There has been much discussion about the Flight Deck Jumpseat. In June of 2015 the APA Board of Directors tasked American Airlines to create a hybrid version of listing for the jumpseat. The Hybrid System for reservation of the Integrated Voice Response (IVR) System for the Jumpseat would be as follows:

7 days and 4 hours from the day of travel (the 4 hours was an AA IT issue) anyone could reserve a jumpseat. At 3 days prior to the flight, the jumpseat would be awarded to the most senior pilot who reserved the jumpseat during the initial first 4 days and 4 hours. Inside of three days prior to the flight, if no pilot had signed up for the jumpseat, it would be awarded to the first pilot requesting the reservation.

American's IT Department has had some difficulties creating what was originally required by the the APA Board of Directors, but recently APA and AA have begun discussing developement of the hybrid system. Considering much time has elapsed since the original direction was given, we wanted to poll the LGA Domicile to see what type of Jumpseat Reservation System you would prefer. Please take the time to complete this simple 1 question poll.

Technically, he wasn't lying.

He just mentioned stuff about no 'debate' going on at the moment....

The stuff you posted is exactly what both my sources described.

TW knows he was being misleading, and he knows why.... But if you parse his words, maybe he wasn't actually lying..... He sure couldn't have been trying harder to throw people off the trail though.

I'm damned sure voting and sending soundoffs!

Al Czervik 02-21-2018 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2533887)
Technically, he wasn't lying.

He just mentioned stuff about no 'debate' going on at the moment....

The stuff you posted is exactly what both my sources described.

TW knows he was being misleading, and he knows why.... But if you parse his words, maybe he wasn't actually lying..... He sure couldn't have been trying harder to throw people off the trail though.

I'm damned sure voting and sending soundoffs!

Exactly why I said “not totally honest.” I’d rather have a guy tell me he didn’t agree with me and he was going to support the opposite side of the argument. His response (posted on our board) was cowardly and conniving.

jcountry 02-21-2018 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2533914)
Exactly why I said “not totally honest.” I’d rather have a guy tell me he didn’t agree with me and he was going to support the opposite side of the argument. His response (posted on our board) was cowardly and conniving.

It sure was.

He is a real tool.

He goes out of his way to screw anyone who is not in his little cartel.

Others do the same, I’m sure-but good ol TW is very bold and obvious about it.

Name User 02-21-2018 04:33 PM

I'm not on FB but can someone post this on the 3rd listers site? I'm betting most of us/them want the current system. Would get a lot of traction.

Also, what an outrageous use of company and union resources.

PRS Guitars 02-21-2018 05:05 PM

LAX put out a survey as well...

jcountry 02-21-2018 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2534006)
I'm not on FB but can someone post this on the 3rd listers site? I'm betting most of us/them want the current system. Would get a lot of traction.

Also, what an outrageous use of company and union resources.

There definitely should be a vote.

Just the other day, I was on the Jumpseat and a very senior LAA Captain was telling me how much he loves the current system. (It wasn’t TW.)

I have a feeling that the current system would win big. I have yet to come across anyone who doesn’t like it better.

But as with all things, our union is more about screwing certain groups than doing anything positive for everyone.


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