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Originally Posted by Vma214
(Post 2534487)
Originally Posted by jcountry View Post
“Maybe the vote could be limited to those who actually commute. IMO, non-commuters don’t have a say in this. They are not affected in any meaningful way.l” EXACTLY. LAA and senior. I like the Hybrid system suggested that goes Seniority for the first two days then fcfs, which honors seniority for at least a couple of days but then gives everyone else time to plan. But, the “non-commuters don’t have a say in this” line is BS. Your choice (yeah, that’s right, NOBODY has a gun to your head) to commute is not my problem. The JS is for EVERY PILOT! Holy tool. Unbelievable. |
Originally Posted by mainlineAF
(Post 2535170)
Holy tool. Unbelievable.
As it once said in KZ Buchenwald "Jedem das Seine". |
Originally Posted by Arado 234
(Post 2535509)
Are you really that surprised? Do you wonder why we have Project Wingman? Ever heard the old (but no so distant) stories how pilots were treated at the old LAA, and how they treated each other? The same people that have a "not my problem" attitude are the ones complaining being labelled "SkyNazi".
As it once said in KZ Buchenwald "Jedem das Seine". But I think Seniority should apply for a couple of days and THEN fcfs for four or five days so that the junior guys (along with guys going on vacation) can plan on their commute. And spare me the Sky Nazi bull$hit. I’ve been hearing that since you were probably in diapers. |
Originally Posted by Mover
(Post 2534867)
No one has a gun to your head, but the threat of divorce might feel like one.
The "Commuting is a choice" is an idiotic statement. You don't know that person's life situation. Are you going to pay for a new hire to pack up and move to NYC on year 1 pay while on probation when that person already lives in DFW? The current system is fair. It should stay in place. Nobody has a gun to your head to go on vacation. Your inability to use a basic phone system and plane ahead is not my problem. The JS is for EVERY PILOT, not just senior pilots. |
Originally Posted by Vma214
(Post 2535635)
Oh for crying out loud. READ AGAIN the last line I wrote. We agree 100%...The jump seat is for EVERYONE. Show me where I said anything about the JS being for senior people only. Man you guys are a bunch of cry babies.
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
(Post 2534357)
Yea true. But there wasn’t any polls put out about LOS and it was the right thing to do.
If we say let’s take a vote there’s a good chance seniority could win out. He even has the gall to brag about that pay raise-which APA got for us.... Right. |
Originally Posted by PRS Guitars
(Post 2535703)
I hesitate to even respond, and I agree completely that the JS is for everyone, not just commuters (though I prefer the current system to a hybrid). With that said, your approach is a bit abrasive when you YELL! With caps and explanation marks. That’s what caused the other replies.
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Originally Posted by Vma214
(Post 2535769)
Thanks. Point taken, although I wasn’t trying to yell as much as to merely emphasize the word. Personally what I find “abrasive” is when people start throwing around words like “stupid”, “idiotic”, “tool” to describe what they think about someone else’s opinion...to which we are all entitled.
(Sorry, couldn’t resist.) |
For me, commuting is a choice and my belief is that the Jumpseat is for everyone no matter if they are heading out for fun or work. To have seniority taken out of the equation is difficult. I spent a lot of years working under a seniority system waiting my turn, and now I have new hires bragging to me about FCFS. AA needs to have a system that balances the needs of all. CD9
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Originally Posted by jcountry
(Post 2535804)
Quit being such a stupid, idiotic, abrasive tool!
(Sorry, couldn’t resist.) (Sorry, neither could I :D ) |
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