https://www.alliedpilots.org/Domiciles/PHL/Poll

Philly poll.

I hope that that was sarcasm.

The JS is not a commuter seat.

The travel priveleges are priveleges, for everyone, equally.

Non Commuters travel also, and their reasons for doing so are every bit as important to them as living wherever is to the commuter.

All the hyperbole and finger pointing and name calling directed at the "senior" aside, the main reason for a hybrid system is to eliminate rhe "fastest fingers" from the equation and allow everyone who may be flying or sleeping or watching their kid's game or whatever at the first second the window opens a chance to plan also.

Three or four days of FCFS is plenty, lots of folks trade trips inside of eight, and even inside of three.

I am a big advocate of our current system. I have commuted under the IVR system. It is the biggest QOL advantage in the world. If (a big if) a hybrid is adapted, 5 days needs to be FCFS. Pilots flying 4 day trips should be able to count on their ride home before starting that trip.

If eliminating “fastest fingers” from the equation is your main issue, then 1 or 2 days of seniority followed by 6 or 7 days of FCFS would do that. The shorter the FCFS period the more stress induced to all pilots (except the top guy per base). It’s why I’m an advocate of the current system.

How do you implement a seniority system? Would people call in and "bid" on seats and then have them awarded? Or whomever calls in during that time frame gets the seat until someone senior calls above them?

Then the guy that gets booted no longer has a seat and now has to fight for FCFS (he could be senior just not senior enough!)? Or they book multiple jump seats in anticipation of getting kicked off a few?

Just seems like a problem in search of a solution.

This is my concern, the unintended consequences of a hybrid system. Booking multiple seats could be one, another is guys booking a seat just in case, when they probably won’t use it.

I think you meant “a solution in search of a problem”:cool:

So, as a supporter of seniority first do you support that because time served with the company should have it's benefits? If so, would you support the seniority period to be by DOH? The reason I ask is because we don't really have a "seniority list", we have a randomly generated list of pilots.

Someone posted an email from AA IT that said it would be seniority by length of service (hire date).

Better not be LOS at AMR. I’m gonna be pretty ****ed off if Eagle flows start going ahead of me for the JS. Our (Newish hires) JS seniority would continue to be diluted for years. Assuming they go hybrid.

I would think it would have to be based on the seniority list, since we don’t have a DOH list. This is something an IT guy might not understand right now.