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R57 relay 03-02-2018 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2541471)
Someone posted an email from AA IT that said it would be seniority by length of service (hire date).

Man, I can't see that flying with certain folks! Should make current system secure!:)

Then again, many don't really understand the disparity between LOS and seniority numbers on our list. Someone on C&R told me I was nuts when I told them that a friend of mine hired at AA a month after I was at PI was over 3000 numbers senior to me.

Frip 03-02-2018 03:14 PM

To answer questions from two posts without quotimg all of both...

Yes I absolutely support Seniority as in Company Date on HI-8,

And, There are are arguments both directions, but my main reason for supporting a hybrid system is to give everyone including those who are flying or for whatever other reason unable to make the call at the starting gun a shot at making a reservation.

To that end, two days of seniority would be enough.

More days of seniority means more flexibility for the frequent traders.

fwiw... There is no "need" to have the reservation to return home before you leave home for a trip. Thousands have demonstrated that for decades. You may be used to it and it may be a nice thing - if you get back in time - but it is nowhere near a "need".

The JS is still not a commuter seat. A pilot who lives in base going to see his kids or parents probably feels like that opportunity to spend time with his family is every git as important as the commuters' desire to spend more time with theirs. They just do it differently.

Maybe one pilot likes to live in God's Country, and commute to work while the other prefers to live in base, and travel to God's Country.

Equally important.


For example.

Name User 03-02-2018 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2541478)
Better not be LOS at AMR. I’m gonna be pretty ****ed off if Eagle flows start going ahead of me for the JS. Our (Newish hires) JS seniority would continue to be diluted for years. Assuming they go hybrid.

I would think it would have to be based on the seniority list, since we don’t have a DOH list. This is something an IT guy might not understand right now.

Only a select few Eagle flows got DOH dates equivalent to around 1999-2000, they are sub 11000 numbers, and they got that awarded like they were new hires then. They were withheld but given a seniority number. It really isn't a big deal...

PRS Guitars 03-02-2018 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2541516)
Only a select few Eagle flows got DOH dates equivalent to around 1999-2000, they are sub 11000 numbers, and they got that awarded like they were new hires then. They were withheld but given a seniority number. It really isn't a big deal...

I’m fine with that, it’s guys not yet on property going ahead of me with their AMR DOH that I’d have a problem with.

Frip 03-03-2018 03:59 AM

Then824 were the last group to come over with anything. Everyone behind them starts as "new-hires", and the 824 ended a while ago.

mainlineAF 03-03-2018 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2541516)
Only a select few Eagle flows got DOH dates equivalent to around 1999-2000, they are sub 11000 numbers, and they got that awarded like they were new hires then. They were withheld but given a seniority number. It really isn't a big deal...



He’s talking about how the eagle guys get their longevity for vacation not those guys you’re talking about. I’d be livid if their eagle time counted for the jumpseat.


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