I used Checked and Set. Charlie Venema was a big wig on the United hiring team.

I’ll give them a shout. Much appreciated.

Just wait until that Chinese-style behavioral rating system makes its way over here in a few years...

That post was slightly sarcastic, but that is the way management looks at things... “If we publicly support X group then Y demographic will think of us first when buying premium tickets or traveling for business.”

Folks in first class and frequent fliers don’t care about specific pilot backgrounds, but they do notice who sits up front...

Ummmmmm, I work ‘here’ and almost everyone I personally know that works here would probably say that just being a decent human being would suffice - but what’s really important are competence and not being a total AAHole to your fellow crew members and customers. But you believe whatever is in vogue with HR...

And guess what, that’s what the interview is about!!!

Priorities to fellow crew members :
1) Is this person going to be the reason all my fine pink mist escapes my big fat body in a horribly painful fashion and ties the hands of the insurance underwriters so that all my buddies are now out of work...

2) Can this person play well with the people we’ve already hired... ‘pilotsplaining’ - am I going to want to strangle you mid sequence - because I don’t think I can do ‘hard time’ and I really like making six figures staring out the window for a living.

3) Is this person going to scare off the people that pay me six figures to stare out the window...

Diversity and Inclusion are not why most of us came to work here - it’s about $4-7MM earned in your career looking out a window (and therefore proving your third grade teacher wrong) and having decent QWL with interesting people that you may be lucky enough to call friends.


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No, I hear ya. Just saying, people want professionals up front. They could care less what parades you march in on your days off. And like it or lump it, it’s reassuring to see that evil white male up front. I don’t think people say, “Wow, all I see are pale male pilots! I’m taking the bus!”

Funny, when I was overseas they wanted Americans in front. Being a white guy is a bonus everywhere but here I guess. Thank goodness my kids can claim “Native American”—they’re gonna’ need it.

Attaboy. Exactly right.

Hey, I had this handle before it was cool to use a noun!! Also not a white male, BTW...

Well, that’s just great! Now I have to report myself to the rule 32 board!




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It may sound ridiculous, but I'm starting to hear more about having some type of community service on your app gives it a better scoring chance with the filtering programs the legacies now use. Had a flight attendent recently who's boyfriend is at Republic mention this also. They volunteered a few weekends at their local soup kitchen helping to feed the homeless so he could add it to his application.