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Name User 06-23-2018 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by nAAtive (Post 2620533)
They would reduce dues. But again you just don’t get it. ALPA contracts have always been better than Apa contracts.

In some areas. APA always had by far the best retirement. Also they have always been big on limiting hours worked and having more pilots on property.

nAAtive 06-23-2018 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2620564)
In some areas. APA always had by far the best retirement. Also they have always been big on limiting hours worked and having more pilots on property.

None of those help a prospective or junior pilot now. Apa has never had an overall industry leading contract.

A330FoodCritic 06-25-2018 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by Frip (Post 2615202)
Ditto the Moveable Day
A day off should be A Day Off

Write your Reps

When they fly you to 1159 on your day off do they replace the day off?

swaayze 06-25-2018 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by A330FoodCritic (Post 2621261)
When they fly you to 1159 on your day off do they replace the day off?

No, but if on reserve then your time off rolls (if you had 48 hrs off from 0000-0000 then you get 48 hrs off from 1159-1159) - so you got that goin for ya.

nAAtive 06-25-2018 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by A330FoodCritic (Post 2621261)
When they fly you to 1159 on your day off do they replace the day off?

If you have a late RAP you often don’t get anything back for flying into your day off. Early RAPs will be shifted later.

nAAtive 06-25-2018 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by swaayze (Post 2621425)
No, but if on reserve then your time off rolls (if you had 48 hrs off from 0000-0000 then you get 48 hrs off from 1159-1159) - so you got that goin for ya.

Unless somethings changed you get your debrief time, domicile rest, then the 48 hours off. That would be an extra 12:15 or 12:30 of off time.

drinksonme 06-25-2018 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by nAAtive (Post 2621500)
Unless somethings changed you get your debrief time, domicile rest, then the 48 hours off. That would be an extra 12:15 or 12:30 of off time.

It’s not extra, it’s replacement of the time off you lost. That’s the spin, not saying you, but that’s how the company and some union folks want you to feel/think about it. None of it’s a good deal. You lose a day off even by 1 minute, it should be replaced and all time flown on the day of should be premium. But thats just wAAy to far out there for APA.

mainlineAF 06-25-2018 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by nAAtive (Post 2620601)
None of those help a prospective or junior pilot now. Apa has never had an overall industry leading contract.



How does requiring more pilots not help a prospective or junior pilot lol@

nAAtive 06-25-2018 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by drinksonme (Post 2621578)
It’s not extra, it’s replacement of the time off you lost. That’s the spin, not saying you, but that’s how the company and some union folks want you to feel/think about it. None of it’s a good deal. You lose a day off even by 1 minute, it should be replaced and all time flown on the day of should be premium. But thats just wAAy to far out there for APA.

I agree. Just wanted people to make sure they knew if you have a late RAP day one back on call you can potentially get nothing back for flying on your day off.

Andrew_VT 06-25-2018 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2621579)
How does requiring more pilots not help a prospective or junior pilot lol@

If requiring more pilots is one of the good things about APA, then it's pretty embarrassing that Delta and United are on track to have higher pilot counts than us soon.


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