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Al Czervik 06-11-2018 08:05 AM

2 year contract extension?
 
I’ve heard rumors of a 2 year contract extension with very small gains? Negotiated by one?

jcountry 06-11-2018 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2612231)
I’ve heard rumors of a 2 year contract extension with very small gains? Negotiated by one?

Nothing I hear about Carey surprises me anymore.

Just assume the worst about him, you will seldom be surprised.

A330FoodCritic 06-11-2018 01:16 PM

Extend a crappy bankruptcy contract?

You just can't make this manure up.

Name User 06-11-2018 02:13 PM

You don't even know the details, if true I'm sure there's good reason.

Maybe we are able to negotiate gains in areas. Who cares how long our contract is valid for as long as we continue to amend and improve it? Small base hits are better than a long, protracted negotiating time line.

jcountry 06-11-2018 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 2612479)
You don't even know the details, if true I'm sure there's good reason.

Maybe we are able to negotiate gains in areas. Who cares how long our contract is valid for as long as we continue to amend and improve it? Small base hits are better than a long, protracted negotiating time line.

You're assuming too much.

Last time our boy Dan sat down and negotiated unilaterally, he pretty much gave away what tiny little work rules we had.

IN exchange for a min avg calendar day-which will likely never be implemented-or if it is will result in min days off for everyone.

Saabs 06-11-2018 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2612480)
You're assuming too much.

Last time our boy Dan sat down and negotiated unilaterally, he pretty much gave away what tiny little work rules we had.

IN exchange for a min avg calendar day-which will likely never be implemented-or if it is will result in min days off for everyone.

How would avg calendar day result in min days off for everyone? Per JCBA that’s 10 days off for lineholders. That would make you way over the line construction window.

jcountry 06-11-2018 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 2612554)
How would avg calendar day result in min days off for everyone? Per JCBA that’s 10 days off for lineholders. That would make you way over the line construction window.

Just watch.

Maybe not min days, but I bet you never see 13 off again. With red eyes at the end of 4 days for 3/4 of your month, you will really feel it.

mainlineAF 06-11-2018 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2612480)
You're assuming too much.



Last time our boy Dan sat down and negotiated unilaterally, he pretty much gave away what tiny little work rules we had.



IN exchange for a min avg calendar day-which will likely never be implemented-or if it is will result in min days off for everyone.



You’ve gone past assuming to just making things up.

mainlineAF 06-11-2018 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2612580)
Just watch.

Maybe not min days, but I bet you never see 13 off again. With red eyes at the end of 4 days for 3/4 of your month, you will really feel it.



13 days off would be 18 days of work in a 31 day month. 18x5:30 is 99 hours. Not going to happen.

Try again.

aa73 06-11-2018 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by jcountry (Post 2612480)
You're assuming too much.

Last time our boy Dan sat down and negotiated unilaterally, he pretty much gave away what tiny little work rules we had.

IN exchange for a min avg calendar day-which will likely never be implemented-or if it is will result in min days off for everyone.

Dude, you’ve crossed the line into delusional territory. Do you just make this crap up or are you really that brainwashed by your PHL/Clt reps?

Not only will ACD be implemented, it will also improve our schedules and result in us having industry leading trip and duty rigs.

You need to stop listening to certain reps with agendas that have nothing to do with facts....and maybe start thanking Dan and those hard working APA volunteers who brought you these improvements.

Back to the OP topic. So, if we get industry leading hotel language, profit sharing, LTD and STD fixes, for a two year extension, I’d say it would pass in a New Jersey minute.


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