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Old 06-20-2018, 04:19 PM
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It's not that hard to understand.
Way too complicated for them! Got to dumb it down a bit and put some touchy feely emotions.
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Old 06-20-2018, 04:25 PM
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Agreed. I’m always surprised how little compassion is displayed by some of our fellow pilots. As much as we want the world to be black and white most issues fall in the gray zone. Even more disturbing is flying a trip with a an old white guy making $350k+ a year who seems to get pleasure out of hearing stories about little kids like this girl. Maybe he thinks that crying toddler from the slums is just a snowflake who needs to learn a lesson. Some of us forget our ancestors probably arrived on a boat cold, hungry, and poor.

These parents are just trying to provide a life for their kids. We would all do the same. Deport them sure. But tearing families apart is cruel.
Would you still be disturbed if it was an old black guy instead? If you would have posted such, you’d be banned from this site for racism and if outed to the company, you’d likely be answering to HR...
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I'll believe that the left cares about children when they stop supporting ripping them from the womb.
So are you anti abortion? You are anti abortion but you support separating babies and toddlers from their parents? Interesting moral compass. Trump just stated it “felt wrong” and wasn’t good policy. You should get some kind of award for being even less heartless than the Donald.
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Old 06-20-2018, 04:26 PM
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It is a lack of compassion. Using your numbers 2000 kids were separated from their parents. Funny that a lot of you guys consider yourselves to be good Christians. I wonder which side of this argument would Jesus take? Mother Theresa? The pope? Maybe you are right. Punish those toddlers.
Again, reading comprehension! I didn’t give any numbers. And no one’s religious beliefs were ever mentioned but of course you went there automatically. The difference between us is that I don’t let my compassion for the innocent children obstruct my critical thinking skills or cloud my view of the bigger picture.

Here, I’ll spell it out for you again...I feel terrible for the children. Do I wish that every child affected could stay with their family, of course. Unfortunately, they have criminals for parents and they chose to break our laws. There are repercussions for that and the fact that they chose, poorly I might add, to bring their children with them doesn’t waive their responsibility. But, as always, it’s always someone else’s fault that they broke the law.
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Old 06-20-2018, 04:29 PM
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Would you still be disturbed if it was an old black guy instead? If you would have posted such, you’d be banned from this site for racism and if outed to the company, you’d likely be answering to HR...
You aren’t so bright are you? The point was somebody who had never faced discrimination and had every door open to them in life (typical white male) took pleasure in an impoverished minority child being separated from her family.
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So are you anti abortion? You are anti abortion but you support separating babies and toddlers from their parents? Interesting moral compass. Trump just stated it “felt wrong” and wasn’t good policy. You should get some kind of award for being even less heartless than the Donald.
Well, since you asked now (even after making assumptions), yes, I’m anti-abortion. And if you read my other dozen or so posts nowhere did I say I was for separating the kids from their families. BUT, it’s an unfortunate consequence for their idiot parents putting them in that position.
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Old 06-20-2018, 04:30 PM
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It is a lack of compassion. Using your numbers 2000 kids were separated from their parents. Funny that a lot of you guys consider yourselves to be good Christians. I wonder which side of this argument would Jesus take? Mother Theresa? The pope? Maybe you are right. Punish those toddlers.
So what's your answer to this problem?

In the US, like every other country on earth, it is illegal to enter the country without permission. It is a crime. A judge in California ruled during Obama, that kids can not be incarcerated with their parents.

So do we just lock up the parents, and leave the kids wandering in the desert?

The current detention facilities (same ones Obama used) may look bad, but they are the most compassionate thing we can do currently on such a large scale. Shelter, food, medicine in conditions that are in many cases better than what they left.
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Old 06-20-2018, 04:31 PM
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You’re blaming the process and not who is actually at fault...the terrible parents. I have 5 children and I promise you that I would NEVER put my kids in that position.
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Again, reading comprehension! I didn’t give any numbers. And no one’s religious beliefs were ever mentioned but of course you went there automatically. The difference between us is that I don’t let my compassion for the innocent children obstruct my critical thinking skills or cloud my view of the bigger picture.

Here, I’ll spell it out for you again...I feel terrible for the children. Do I wish that every child affected could stay with their family, of course. Unfortunately, they have criminals for parents and they chose to break our laws. There are repercussions for that and the fact that they chose, poorly I might add, to bring their children with them doesn’t waive their responsibility. But, as always, it’s always someone else’s fault that they broke the law.
Even your president Donald Trump realizes there is a difference between the average criminal being separated from their children and a Central American family trying to escape poverty. Maybe you should work harder on your critical thinking skills.
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Old 06-20-2018, 04:35 PM
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Even your president Donald Trump realizes there is a difference between the average criminal being separated from their children and a Central American family trying to escape poverty. Maybe you should work harder on your critical thinking skills.
Lol, whatever dude. I’m done here. You’re only going to hear what you want to hear. There is a legal way to enter our country as millions have done before. They made a choice. A bad one at that. Now they pay the price. The system isn’t perfect but the blame is theirs.

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