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Old 06-22-2018, 09:50 PM
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I wonder what kind of person could read this and feel ok with what's been transpiring.

Immigrant families encounter chaos to reunite parents with children - Business Insider

"But many other children lack Madrid's advantage — not only are they bereft of phone numbers for any US relatives, many are also so young they can't speak or don't know details that would help locate their parents, like their full names or birth dates.

And while immigration authorities have set up a hotline parents can call for assistance tracking down their children, many of the parents remain detained and have limited access to phones.

Even the tiniest error from Customs and Border Protection officers could be the difference between a family being reunited or separated indefinitely, said Liz Willis, the program manager for the Urban Justice Center's Asylum Seeker Advocacy Project.

For instance, if CBP staff made an typo when they wrote down migrants' names during processing, their children or other relatives won't be able to find them through the online detainee locator."
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:49 AM
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I wonder what kind of person could read this and feel ok with what's been transpiring.

Immigrant families encounter chaos to reunite parents with children - Business Insider

"But many other children lack Madrid's advantage — not only are they bereft of phone numbers for any US relatives, many are also so young they can't speak or don't know details that would help locate their parents, like their full names or birth dates.

And while immigration authorities have set up a hotline parents can call for assistance tracking down their children, many of the parents remain detained and have limited access to phones.

Even the tiniest error from Customs and Border Protection officers could be the difference between a family being reunited or separated indefinitely, said Liz Willis, the program manager for the Urban Justice Center's Asylum Seeker Advocacy Project.

For instance, if CBP staff made an typo when they wrote down migrants' names during processing, their children or other relatives won't be able to find them through the online detainee locator."
Odd how I don’t get how you don’t understand the many stories of families getting to the border and then a smuggler demanding more money and when a family can’t comply they rape a kid or take one. Or the families who have lost kids to these illegal criminals. Guess it’s ok for their legal US Citizen kids to be ripped from them forever. Not temporarily. They then get to pay for a funeral. Guess you some how forget that part of this all? Go figure but AA surely has it all figured out just like you do.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:45 AM
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Odd how I don’t get how you don’t understand the many stories of families getting to the border and then a smuggler demanding more money and when a family can’t comply they rape a kid or take one. Or the families who have lost kids to these illegal criminals. Guess it’s ok for their legal US Citizen kids to be ripped from them forever. Not temporarily. They then get to pay for a funeral. Guess you some how forget that part of this all? Go figure but AA surely has it all figured out just like you do.
Ignorant and misguided talking points regurgitated without any effort to understand much less sympathize.

Yes, many of these people are faced with unimaginable choices to the point that they are willing to endure a hellacious journey with extreme danger to seek asylum in the U.S. Immigrants commit significantly less crime than citizens.

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I wonder what kind of person could read this and feel ok with what's been transpiring.

Immigrant families encounter chaos to reunite parents with children - Business Insider
Failure to plan for the easily predictable repercussions of the Trump administration's misguided and heartless zero tolerance policy change.
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Old 06-23-2018, 08:18 AM
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"Time issued a correction on one of its articles in which Moore's photo appeared. "The original version of this story misstated what happened to the girl in the photo after she taken from the scene. The girl was not carried away screaming by U.S. Border Patrol agents; her mother picked her up and the two were taken away together," the correction reads. (CNN quickly issued a correction on one article Thursday that focused on the Time cover to correctly describe the image of the crying girl.)"

This is precisely why publicly traded companies should remain clear of social media driven, knee-jerk reactions. No telling where these politically charged agendas end up. AA management had no need to involve its stakeholders in this.

'F' for risk management.
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Old 06-23-2018, 08:35 AM
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This is precisely why publicly traded companies should remain clear of social media driven, knee-jerk reactions. No telling where these politically charged agendas end up. AA management had no need to involve its stakeholders in this.
That is great news for that little girl and her family, but there are hundreds of others who were not so lucky. This is irrelevant to the excellent decision of the airlines to request the government stop using them to help separate these children from their parents.
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Old 06-23-2018, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post
Ignorant and misguided talking points regurgitated without any effort to understand much less sympathize.

Yes, many of these people are faced with unimaginable choices to the point that they are willing to endure a hellacious journey with extreme danger to seek asylum in the U.S. Immigrants commit significantly less crime than citizens.



Failure to plan for the easily predictable repercussions of the Trump administration's misguided and heartless zero tolerance policy change.
Actually look in a mirror pal. You’d see the ignorance staring at you in the face. Your hate is obvious and absolutely disgusting.
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Old 06-23-2018, 08:58 AM
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Actually look in a mirror pal. You’d see the ignorance staring at you in the face.
But yet you are incapable of providing examples.

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Your hate is obvious and absolutely disgusting.
I see. Making the case for NOT systematically separating children from their parents is hateful. Pure psychological projection on your part. Good luck with that.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive View Post
That is great news for that little girl and her family, but there are hundreds of others who were not so lucky. This is irrelevant to the excellent decision of the airlines to request the government stop using them to help separate these children from their parents.
At this stage, its too early to tell. And that's the point to be made; The hyper-politicized and polarized media and politicians may have the liberty of taking an emotional stance, (along with those of us who bravely opine on an anonymous forum), but a board of directors doesn't.

Publicly traded companies have fiduciary responsibility to make decisions that are in the best interest of the shareholders. Whether we agree or not, those may involve decisions that protect the corporation's stock value at the expense of what you and I think is right or wrong. For evidence of this, one need look no further than the number of frivolous lawsuits settled out of court. They may appear ridiculous but they're designed to mitigate risk, preserve the corporation's image, value, and minimize cost. (This points to a desperate need for Torts reform, but I'll leave that for a different thread).

The fallout from this could easily cost AA more than they're prepared to accept. Or not. The point being that there was no risk/reward benefit to prematurely pursuing this action. As we are already seeing, these stories have a tendency to become twisted, unravel, and paint a completely different picture at their conclusion. The Board of Directors doesn't have a crystal ball clear enough to make that distinction at this point.

AA is in business to make a profit, not immerse themselves in emotional/social/political agendas that have no ties to their given charter ($$) and bring nothing to the table but unnecessary risk with nebulous prospects of reward.

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Old 06-23-2018, 09:20 AM
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At this stage, its too early to tell. And that's the point to be made..., but a board of directors doesn't. They have to make decisions that are in the best interest of the shareholders.
The verdict is in on the systematic separation of children from their parents when President Trump reversed course.

Public corporations have other stakeholders than shareholders. For instance shareholders are always subordinate to debt holders as we all found out in BK. Airlines also talk and in this case they presented a united front. AAL, DAL, UAL & SWA all took this action. That is 82% of the US market and substantially mitigates shareholder risk.
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Originally Posted by Laker24 View Post
I wonder what kind of person could read this and feel ok with what's been transpiring.

Immigrant families encounter chaos to reunite parents with children - Business Insider

"But many other children lack Madrid's advantage — not only are they bereft of phone numbers for any US relatives, many are also so young they can't speak or don't know details that would help locate their parents, like their full names or birth dates.

And while immigration authorities have set up a hotline parents can call for assistance tracking down their children, many of the parents remain detained and have limited access to phones.

Even the tiniest error from Customs and Border Protection officers could be the difference between a family being reunited or separated indefinitely, said Liz Willis, the program manager for the Urban Justice Center's Asylum Seeker Advocacy Project.

For instance, if CBP staff made an typo when they wrote down migrants' names during processing, their children or other relatives won't be able to find them through the online detainee locator."
No one in the right mind feels “okay” with what’s happening. It’s the same way no one feels okay with a poor inner city child who is now fatherless because his father decided to sell cocaine to “feed his family.” You break the law, you go to jail, not sure why this is so ******* complicated.

Zero solutions from those screeching about child separations (which we have established have been occurring well before Trump but it’s seemingly goof politics to yell about it now that Trump is in office.) If you deport border crossers they’ll just come back. You can’t just let them go. Trump actually tried to ensure kids don’t get separated from their parents but now the left is shrieking about detaining kids.

The only real solution is to secure the border like every other nation in the world would do. However, we have seen how difficult that can be to ask.
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