E190s
 

A few questions:

1) The retirement has been pushed back from 2019 to 2020, right? But latest official word is that they are still out of the fleet by the end of 2020?

2) Have there been any serious E2 rumors? Delta has its A220s coming, increasingly serious E2-195 rumblings at UAL... Just wondering if there might be a last minute reversal and significant order for a bunch of E2 planes (and possibly the much larger E2-195 at that).

3) Anyone know why the E190s were exclusively put in PHL? It seems that CLT, for example, could have really used them on more routes and to more markets. There's obviously a gap between the 319s and the CRJ900s that just isn't well served.

[Full disclosure: The regional carrier I fly for will very likely pick up CRJ-900 flying where and when the E190s diminish. Not proud of that, but that's what AAL management is choosing to do. I'm asking these questions because they influence base growth and possibly my progression in base seniority at my regional. Have to consider PHL because I'm being forced to upgrade and forced out of my domicile after our MEC threw senior FOs under the bus at my regional...]

Latest official word is 6 leave 1st Q 2020, the other 14 remain until last Q.

There are lots of rumors. Until the news hits Wall Street, that is all they are.

PHL is a good hub for the Shuttle ops the 190 has flown for years is my guess. The route network for the 190 will not expand, that is pretty much definite.

On a personal note, I see a gap that the E2 could fill nicely and hope it happens. I think 60 would be a good number. But having said that, I always miss the calls from Doug.

One of Embraer’s “Profit Hunter” E-190 E2’s was parked at DFW on Monday night / Tuesday. A spotter buddy of mine tracked it, and the DFW Airport FB page had pictures.

Sales pitch? Refuel/rest? I dunno.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

IMO
Dollar store Doug will try to get us to pay for a new order. That’s why the retirement is being push back right when our contact negotiations heat up. Some might bite but hopefully our guys see the big picture and realizes management’s decision doesn’t hinge on us...they are just hoping we’ll bite.

Hold the line on scope!

Absolutely! No scope relief! If anything tighten it!

It hit other airline hubs too. I saw FLL and DEN I believe as well.

United pitch in Denver and a Spirit pitch in Fort Lauderdale maybe

Or maybe Frontier in Denver.

Before DFW it was spotted at Boeing Field and then at SEA.

Maybe Boeing is considering buying the company? And Alaska is a potential customer?? Purely speculation.

Maybe my sarcasm detector is broken, but I’ll bite anyway. Boeing already did buy (or announced anyway) a controlling stake in Embraer. They did it to compete with Airbus’s acquisition of Bombardier.

Of course I agree with that, but scope has nothing to do with the 190 being mainline. We want that, it’s a good thing, but the pay rates need to be higher.

Yeah, I was scratching my head too. Maybe I'm not catching the sarcasm, but Boeing announced it was buying part of Embraer 2 months ago. So, makes perfect sense that an E190 is doing the rounds. When Airbus took over the C-Series/A220 from Bombardier, they started marketing it directly rather quickly, using their own team from Europe. Something tells me Boeing is taking more of an interest in trying to sell the E series now that they have a financial interest in it and the A220 assembly line is moving to Alabama.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/05/boei...t-venture.html

What’s the info so I can track the Profit Hunter?

I’ll ask my buddy and get back to you. I think there are three of them, each painted differently - shark, eagle, and tiger.

I agree. Just want to make sure we never see the 190 flying at envoy or piedmont or PSA etc.

The rates are terrible on it currently.

Thank you!

Agreed and I’d even go further and say that we should bring the Embraer 175’s and CRJ 900’s on property too.

Oh for the love of God, please done relax scope!!! I want to get my turn in the E2 (got some fat engines), but not at the expense of flying it at a regional for $40/hour.

Makes sense. E175 has the same type rating as the E190 and a good portion of pilots have a CL-65 type rating.

PLEASE do!

Here is what I found. It looks like the shark-painted plane has finished its U.S. tour and is now in Europe.


https://flightaware.com/live/flight/PRZIJ/history

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/PRZGQ/history

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/PRZFU/history

Sorry, I totally forgot. But someone smarter than me has you covered.

15 new E190 captain positions on the Jan 2019 vacancy announcement today.

I noticed on the 6 month forecast that staffing actually increases on the 190. Huh.

Thanks, I’ll check out the links!

No problem at all!

Where do you see that?

It's in the vacancy announcement pdf.

Where do I go to find that? I’m so new I don’t even know how to bid yet. Mostly focusing on training.

CCI msg.

If you don’t have CCI go to aapilots and in the gray bar on the left side the tenth item is Crew Check In (CCI). Click on that and there’s two options to go to the web page or to download the app.

aapilots homepage. Top left.

Haha. Thanks. Short answer is better!

aapilots, blue banner has your name. Fifth bullet point below it has the message.

Since you’re new, here is a heads up. The company is not bound in any way to the forecast vacancies (the product we are discussing). The results can vary widely. Also, filling vacancies creates vacancies. So bid what you want and nothing more. Always check what you have in DECS for your bid. Check the video out in:

My365, Flight 831, support videos.

I have to watch it every time, I don’t waste precious brain bytes on memorizing DECS codes.

Would you agree if the plan was to sell 125 319s and replace them with 175 195E2's.

The problem with scope is it changes the model. AA would buy the CRJ 1,000 or the E2 or C series, and juduging by AA 190 rates you'd be downgrading your own job.

Right now the 190 AA rates are liability.

Wasn't this the fear during the JCBA?

Was that the fear or was it the threat?

Definitely a fear, managment never once "threatened" to park Airbii and replace with E190's IIRC. It was a C&R thing.

Absolutely right,

I’m sensing some of that fear in this thread. The reality is we should welcome any future AB 220 or new 190 purchases, as Delta pilots have and a United pilots want. It’s more opportunities and choices. But...we need to fix the rates on this contract! We can’t let this fall through the cracks just because we are parking them.

There will be niches, medium range medium sized towns perhaps, where these aircraft will do the job better than anything else. Somebody will do this flying with these types of aircraft. It might as well be mainline. No harder fighting for a good rate for an A-195 E2 or A220 than doing the same for a 737. Or do you seriously want the work to go to some new ULCC like Moxy?