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EMBFlyer 12-15-2018 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by mainlineAF (Post 2725929)
Ugh I’m jealous. My landings count has been pegged at 250 the last 4 years.

And it will never go higher than that in DECS.

airlinegypsy 12-15-2018 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 2725250)
You all make enough to not be sleeping in ops. That’s absolutely ridiculous to have pilots doing. Crash pad or hotel but ops? Come on now.



Why bother paying for a hotel or even schlepping to the crashpad when at best you would get 4 hours of sleep before catching a flight home?


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Cheddar 12-16-2018 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by airlinegypsy (Post 2725979)
Why bother paying for a hotel or even schlepping to the crashpad when at best you would get 4 hours of sleep before catching a flight home?


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I think they’re talking about before a trip begins...



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airlinegypsy 12-16-2018 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Cheddar (Post 2726210)
I think they’re talking about before a trip begins...



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To some I don’t think that makes a difference at all.


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sherpster 12-18-2018 06:03 AM

320 v 737 LGA information. I see a lot of 320 LGA new hires soon (if I am reading the tea leaves correctly)

Anyways, info from the last 2 vacancy announcements:
LGA FO Vacancies:
737 320
199 184 Projected in Sept for Jan 2019
207 185 In Sept for March 2019
216 206 In Oct for March 2019
216 206 In Oct for May 2019
231 257 In Dec for June 2019 (24 737-I)
231 257 In Dec for Aug 2019 (24 737-I)

Too lazy to count the actual number of trips and their length from the most recent bid pack
737 320 -
19 22 LGA trip pages
18 12 JFK trip pages
13 9 EWR trip pages

737 International is all LGA

wiz5422 12-22-2018 06:13 PM

Quick questions....

Hopefully going to choose the 320 in class. Looking at what base LGA, LAX or MIA is best choice for a new hire looking for best QOL with regards to;

commuting from DFW
best location for crash pads (not required, price, location and ease.)
shortest time to long call
shortest time to holding a line
Quality of trips.

and anything else you would like to add.

Thank you.

OVBIII 12-23-2018 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2729963)
Quick questions....

Hopefully going to choose the 320 in class. Looking at what base LGA, LAX or MIA is best choice for a new hire looking for best QOL with regards to;

commuting from DFW
best location for crash pads (not required, price, location and ease.)
shortest time to long call
shortest time to holding a line
Quality of trips.

and anything else you would like to add.

Thank you.

I am going to throw a wrench in the mix. (and I bet PRS or Mainline may be able to expound more eloquently on this idea). have you considered the 190 PHL commute (I have heard it is infinitely easier than west or east coast commute)? if you are wanting a good QOL above all then it may be prudent to consider the 190 if offered.
Not trying to do anything but increase our options of QOL! cheers.

(I would be remiss if I didn't say that DFW is increasing its NB staffing ergo you would most likely get a bid to DFW on the 737/320 within a year...which might be a great reason to commute to a 737/320 per your original intent)

PRS Guitars 12-23-2018 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by OVBIII (Post 2730102)
I am going to throw a wrench in the mix. (and I bet PRS or Mainline may be able to expound more eloquently on this idea). have you considered the 190 PHL commute (I have heard it is infinitely easier than west or east coast commute)? if you are wanting a good QOL above all then it may be prudent to consider the 190 if offered.
Not trying to do anything but increase our options of QOL! cheers.

(I would be remiss if I didn't say that DFW is increasing its NB staffing ergo you would most likely get a bid to DFW on the 737/320 within a year...which might be a great reason to commute to a 737/320 per your original intent)

I used to be a fan of the 190 for a few reasons, now with it being parked, I’m not sure. I’m not really up to speed on the movement on that fleet. I’d be concerned about being the plug for awhile.

I’ve always thought that the DFW PHL commute would be better than DFW LGA because LAA guys are less likely to leave their comfort zone of a base they know, schedule they know etc and commute to an LUS base. But it’s been a few years so that likely not the case anymore.

The great thing about PHL is the affordable crash pads with reliable bus service in Essington. LAX crash pads are more expensive and tougher transportation, Hotels are very expensive. So in that sense, I think PHL is a lot more commuter friendly.

At LAX on the other hand, you gain 2 hours on your commute, which allows for earlier trips. Just please don’t use Ops as a crash pad, which seems to be on the rise.

mainlineAF 12-24-2018 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2730185)
I used to be a fan of the 190 for a few reasons, now with it being parked, I’m not sure. I’m not really up to speed on the movement on that fleet. I’d be concerned about being the plug for awhile.



I’ve always thought that the DFW PHL commute would be better than DFW LGA because LAA guys are less likely to leave their comfort zone of a base they know, schedule they know etc and commute to an LUS base. But it’s been a few years so that likely not the case anymore.



The great thing about PHL is the affordable crash pads with reliable bus service in Essington. LAX crash pads are more expensive and tougher transportation, Hotels are very expensive. So in that sense, I think PHL is a lot more commuter friendly.



At LAX on the other hand, you gain 2 hours on your commute, which allows for earlier trips. Just please don’t use Ops as a crash pad, which seems to be on the rise.



I’m not up to speed on the 190 plan either as I’m going to be off the plane soon more than likely. But i will say i do still fly with lots of Dallas commuters.

If you come to the 190 now there is a good chance you will have to be on it until it’s parked. If it was me I’d try and avoid it if i lived in another base for that reason alone.

TankerDriver 12-25-2018 06:38 AM

The "current" plan for the 190 is to park it by summer of '20. I believe we already lost or will soon lose 4 of them. I heard last initial quals will be Sept '19. Capt manning is an issue and FO's are being Jr assigned to Capt recently. Worst case scenerio is you pick 190 and get withheld for up to 12 months or until it goes away. By that time you'll most likely be senior enough to hold 320 at PHL or just about anywhere else your heart desires as a 320 FO.


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