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Old 01-21-2019, 05:53 PM
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Is it 1 year from class date or 1 year from projected training completion?

I've always been under the assumption that it was projected training completion date but now I'm unsure if there was a change with the new LOS implemented back in NOV. I was scrolling through APA webpage>quicklinks>compass project>documents index>pay/compensation> 2nd year pay raise.

Page 2 part two clearly says its 1 year from class start date but I've never been told this was a thing and this is not what we learned during indoc. So was there a change that I missed. Also the document was created on 1/11/19. What am I missing?
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:14 PM
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Found my mistake. Missed a paragraph when looking at it and I don’t know how to delete threads. Class date is short for classification date which is projected training completion. Someone throw this in the next contract please. 4 seniority dates is a little ridiculous don’t you think. Why do things need to be so hard lol
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Why do things need to be so hard lol
Because that’s they way they’ve always don’t things.
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Because that’s they way they’ve always don’t things.
You want change? Well, you're going to get it in March! Well, the Airbus is anyway...
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You want change? Well, you're going to get it in March! Well, the Airbus is anyway...
I’m not smart enough to run landing distance calculations in March!!
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Because that’s they way they’ve always don’t things.
How original.
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You want change? Well, you're going to get it in March! Well, the Airbus is anyway...
737 fleet as well. Bring it!

(Of course, instead of complaining that we’re adapting a bunch of LUS style triggers and flows, I actually welcome it. Change can be good. But that’s just me...)
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737 fleet as well. Bring it!

(Of course, instead of complaining that we’re adapting a bunch of LUS style triggers and flows, I actually welcome it. Change can be good. But that’s just me...)
Yes, change can be good. The manuals are giving me fits right now, but think we are headed in the right direction. The Airbus flows and expanded flows need some polishing up.

Sorry for the thread creep.
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Old 01-22-2019, 08:22 AM
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737 fleet as well. Bring it!

(Of course, instead of complaining that we’re adapting a bunch of LUS style triggers and flows, I actually welcome it. Change can be good. But that’s just me...)
You’re alone on that. I’ve seen the new TEM/BRIEF used once since last summer when we changed it.

“How original”? It’s the truth. For some reason LAA only looks backwards. The only thing I see on AArena is pictures of the glory days. Lol...wake up Al Bundy!
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You’re alone on that. I’ve seen the new TEM/BRIEF used once since last summer when we changed it.

“How original”? It’s the truth. For some reason LAA only looks backwards. The only thing I see on AArena is pictures of the glory days. Lol...wake up Al Bundy!
Yes. I know it’s true. But instead of constantly complaining about it why not get involved and try and effectuate change... I did just that and while I may not have been too effective I still gave it a shot.
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