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Old 05-18-2019 | 02:32 PM
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On a technical basis, you have the Southwest flight with the blown up engine that killed a pax (I was told by one of our AA check airmen that WN puts 3 or 4 times more hours on the engine before it gets overhauled).

Uh-huh. So the biggest operator of CFM56s in the world is running their engines "3 or 4 times more hours" between overhauls than....what...CFM's recommendations? Surely not. This sounds like 5th-hand information that has been given the appropriate embellishments along the way by several peeps with an anti-SWA agenda.
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Old 05-18-2019 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokey23
Uh-huh. So the biggest operator of CFM56s in the world is running their engines "3 or 4 times more hours" between overhauls than....what...CFM's recommendations? Surely not. This sounds like 5th-hand information that has been given the appropriate embellishments along the way by several peeps with an anti-SWA agenda.
Well, I did state that this info came from a check airman, didn't I?
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Old 05-19-2019 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pooch817
There hasn't been an aircraft lost in the US in 20 years.
Not true.... There was literally a crash just over two weeks ago on May 3, 2019. Miami Air International Flight 293, a B737-800 operated by a 121 passenger charter airline, crashed resulting in a total hull loss. All human passengers survived while 3 pets onboard were killed. The aircraft over ran the runway and ended up in a river.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/04/florida-plane-crash-survivor-landing-guantanamo-bay-cuba/1100290001/

Atlas Air 3591 crashed Feb 23, 2019. It was a B767 and resulted in 3 deaths. https://www.flyingmag.com/ntsb-atlas-3591-cvr-review

Conquest Air Cargo lost a plane on Feb 8, 2019 resulting in the death of a friend and former colleague.
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/02/10/coast-guard-calls-off-search-for-plane-captain-after-crash-in-ocean-waters/
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Old 05-19-2019 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by redbaronahp
Not true.... There was literally a crash just over two weeks ago on May 3, 2019. Miami Air International Flight 293, a B737-800 operated by a 121 passenger charter airline, crashed resulting in a total hull loss. All human passengers survived while 3 pets onboard were killed. The aircraft over ran the runway and ended up in a river.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ba/1100290001/

Atlas Air 3591 crashed Feb 23, 2019. It was a B767 and resulted in 3 deaths. https://www.flyingmag.com/ntsb-atlas-3591-cvr-review

Conquest Air Cargo lost a plane on Feb 8, 2019 resulting in the death of a friend and former colleague.
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/02/1...-ocean-waters/
Somebody told me there had not been a hull loss in US for 20 years. I believed him.
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Old 05-19-2019 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by redbaronahp
Not true.... There was literally a crash just over two weeks ago on May 3, 2019. Miami Air International Flight 293, a B737-800 operated by a 121 passenger charter airline, crashed resulting in a total hull loss. All human passengers survived while 3 pets onboard were killed. The aircraft over ran the runway and ended up in a river.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/04/florida-plane-crash-survivor-landing-guantanamo-bay-cuba/1100290001/

Atlas Air 3591 crashed Feb 23, 2019. It was a B767 and resulted in 3 deaths. https://www.flyingmag.com/ntsb-atlas-3591-cvr-review

Conquest Air Cargo lost a plane on Feb 8, 2019 resulting in the death of a friend and former colleague.
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/02/10/coast-guard-calls-off-search-for-plane-captain-after-crash-in-ocean-waters/
Not even to mention (off top of my head)...

AA in NYC, Colgan in NY, UPS in BHM, Asiana in SFO, and a US Airways express in CLT. All since 2000.
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Old 05-19-2019 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Arado 234
I understand that people are people, and the economics of business but what bothers me is the arrogance and condescendence when a product is found to be deficient.

Human life is becoming a dollar figure. And that seems initially cheaper than fixing a problematic product. AFAIK this attitude has been a (financial) disaster in the past.

That's why self regulation doesn't work. And this doesn't only apply to Boeing.
Human life has probably always been a dollar figure.
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Old 05-19-2019 | 03:11 PM
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Ol' Sully landed one in the Hudson river. Even made a movie about it...
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Old 05-20-2019 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pooch817
I stand corrected. Pilots don't set out to kill themselves. Something caused those crashes.
True....except maybe for the 320 guy in the alps. And calloway on the fdx dc10.
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Old 05-20-2019 | 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pooch817
Somebody told me there had not been a hull loss in US for 20 years.
Did you remind him to Never Forget?
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Old 05-20-2019 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Arado 234
WN puts 3 or 4 times more hours on the engine before it gets overhauled).


No, that’s the Air Force...


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