APA Boeing phone call
05-14-2019 | 04:06 PM
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APA Boeing phone call
Saw the media got a hold of the phone conference between Boeing and the APA reps. Boeing gave the same party line of "we try not to overload the crews with information that's unnecessary so they actually know the information we believe is important"
My viewpoint is that if its gonna try to kill me I wanna know about it. This quote from Apollo 13 best describe the viewpoint that most pilots feel about the situation with regards to Boeing "I want you guys to find every engineer who designed every switch, every circuit, every transistor, and every lightbulb that's up there"
What are your thoughts on it? Do you feel the training was adequate or would you have rather had a more in depth training on the aircraft and its systems?
My viewpoint is that if its gonna try to kill me I wanna know about it. This quote from Apollo 13 best describe the viewpoint that most pilots feel about the situation with regards to Boeing "I want you guys to find every engineer who designed every switch, every circuit, every transistor, and every lightbulb that's up there"
What are your thoughts on it? Do you feel the training was adequate or would you have rather had a more in depth training on the aircraft and its systems?
05-14-2019 | 06:18 PM
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My thoughts on it are that flight crews and airlines should have been told by the manufacturer that the system is on the aircraft and given all available information on MCAS and how to disable it if needed. Even if this lead to what Boeing referred to as information overload for crews or what Boeings worst fear was (a new type rating for the aircraft), at least its better than having 2 airframes in the ground and the rest of the fleet grounded worldwide.
05-14-2019 | 06:28 PM
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My thoughts on it are that flight crews and airlines should have been told by the manufacturer that the system is on the aircraft and given all available information on MCAS and how to disable it if needed. Even if this lead to what Boeing referred to as information overload for crews or what Boeings worst fear was (a new type rating for the aircraft), at least its better than having 2 airframes in the ground and the rest of the fleet grounded worldwide.
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05-14-2019 | 06:33 PM
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05-15-2019 | 01:22 AM
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My thoughts on it are that flight crews and airlines should have been told by the manufacturer that the system is on the aircraft and given all available information on MCAS and how to disable it if needed. Even if this lead to what Boeing referred to as information overload for crews or what Boeings worst fear was (a new type rating for the aircraft), at least its better than having 2 airframes in the ground and the rest of the fleet grounded worldwide.
05-15-2019 | 07:44 AM
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05-15-2019 | 08:44 AM
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Funny how pilots only want the minimum information needed to pass ground school (I can’t control it, why do I need to know what it is or how it works) but when the SHTF, suddenly Boeing and AA left them hanging. Bottom line, info about the system should have been in the manual and covered in a couple of home study slides. Boeing screwed the pooch keeping it mum and they’re gonna pay a huge price for it.
05-15-2019 | 02:51 PM
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Agreed with above, Boeing will settle and pay out $$$$$$ but they are already insured just like airlines are. Contrary to what many think, the MAX will do just fine. The 737 didn’t end when UA went down at COS and US went down at PIT. After those 2 fatal crashes, they addressed the problem and pilots were appropriately trained. No crash since then due to rudder hardover. Once this software fix is done and pilots trained appropriately, I dont see another MCAS related crash. It will only run once and be limited in its travel amount. MCAS will be override-able with a full nose up input. Problem will be solved. Not to mention being hooked up to both sensors and it’ll only run when both AOA sense a high alpha, so MCAS even operating is going to be a rare event when one sensor fails.
05-15-2019 | 02:56 PM
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Funny how pilots only want the minimum information needed to pass ground school (I can’t control it, why do I need to know what it is or how it works) but when the SHTF, suddenly Boeing and AA left them hanging. Bottom line, info about the system should have been in the manual and covered in a couple of home study slides. Boeing screwed the pooch keeping it mum and they’re gonna pay a huge price for it.
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