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Swakid8 12-22-2022 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3555895)
I think UA is a house of cards. Kirby is obsessed with sticking it to his rivals and former bosses at AA and he's in a race with them to outcompete on the "bigger is better" scale. Their overhead is already massive and I don't think they have the premium revenue to support it in the long run. Nevertheless they're over leveraging badly in this expansion and UAL has a long history of spending like drunken sailors until the day the music stops. The next time that place collapses it's gonna be ugly. I wouldn't want to be in the bottom 50% over there.

I wouldn’t be quick to say that. Yes SK has a Vendetta against AA and DL. However, United is behind both AA and DL domestically when it comes to mainline capacity and have some some hubs that are under developed. There’s definitely room for for growth. While we have a ton of airplanes on order, we also have a ton of airplanes that are getting up in age in the mainline fleet. I think United will see some small growth domestically as RJs are phased out and hubs like DEN, IAH, IAD are developed to their true potential.

When it comes to international, United has some great hubs that captures international premium demand. ORD, EWR, IAH all solid hubs for international premium demand. SFO and LAX is down due to Asian demand being down. Our WB order is targeted as a 756 and 777 PW replacement, so only growth of gauge for the time being.

Red Forman 12-22-2022 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3557971)
I’m not doom and gloom for AA. Anything that negatively impacts AA will likely impact the rest of the industry too. And I think your airline is going to transform itself more than others in the coming years due to your management and due to poor representation from APA.

Wow, didn’t realized I worked there.

Arado 234 12-22-2022 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3555890)
American Airlines used to do wide body international, and they were damn good at it. Most of us who have been in this industry a while remember AA DC-10, A300, and 767 Luxury Liners flying all over the world.

But then they were taken over by US Air. US Air was a hodgepodge domestic/regional airline conglomeration that was scared of wide body international and never more than dipped their toes in it. And that brought us the "American" of today, which is AA in name only, like a little boy wearing his dad's old shoes.

And yet the LAA pilots gave Doug a standing ovation when he addressed them about the merger. Life must have been AAwesome over there. The land of milk & honey. Superior. Please repeat it 47 times.

EMBFlyer 12-23-2022 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 3558078)
And yet the LAA pilots gave Doug a standing ovation when he addressed them about the merger. Life must have been AAwesome over there. The land of milk & honey. Superior. Please repeat it 47 times.

Please get it right.

They were called to and stood at attention and saluted.

JohnBurke 01-01-2023 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3555890)
American Airlines used to do wide body international, and they were damn good at it. Most of us who have been in this industry a while remember AA DC-10, A300, and 767 Luxury Liners flying all over the world.

I just rode American internationally in a 787, and they seemed pretty good at it.

Nice business class, too.

Margaritaville 01-03-2023 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3563625)
I just rode American internationally in a 787, and they seemed pretty good at it.

Nice business class, too.

The USAir 330s were pretty nice too, the 5 or so places they flew them.

AllYourBaseAreB 01-03-2023 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3564238)
The USAir 330s were pretty nice too, the 5 or so places they flew them.

wow… 5 destinations for 22 planes?! Whodathunkit….?!?!

Margaritaville 01-04-2023 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB (Post 3564481)
wow… 5 destinations for 22 planes?! Whodathunkit….?!?!

Look up hyperbole and stop taking chat boards seriously. Lol.

AllYourBaseAreB 01-04-2023 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3564749)
Look up hyperbole and stop taking chat boards seriously. Lol.

that was beyond hyperbole…

Arado 234 01-04-2023 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3563625)
I just rode American internationally in a 787, and they seemed pretty good at it.

Nice business class, too.

Have you taken a European or Asian carrier? We cannot even compare. It's embarrassing.


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