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Arado 234 01-04-2023 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3555890)
American Airlines used to do wide body international, and they were damn good at it. Most of us who have been in this industry a while remember AA DC-10, A300, and 767 Luxury Liners flying all over the world.

But then they were taken over by US Air. US Air was a hodgepodge domestic/regional airline conglomeration that was scared of wide body international and never more than dipped their toes in it. And that brought us the "American" of today, which is AA in name only, like a little boy wearing his dad's old shoes.

I keep forgetting it was USAir that ordered all them Fokkers and Maddogs for AA. They might have been bigger but nothing more than a "Meh" product. Always been that wAAy.
Remember when those Maddog engines kept blowing up, due to really crAApy maintenance? Blame USAir for that, too?
At old superior AA, employees even had to pay to non-rev on their own metal. Ah, the good ol' days...
What did the USair/AWA get out the superior LAA thinking? Weight restrictions for the Jumpseat. 'Cause it's always been that wAAy, and quite frankly, you should be livin' in base, son!

Arado 234 01-04-2023 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3564238)
The USAir 330s were pretty nice too, the 5 or so places they flew them.

Surprisingly, those were much more reliable than the superior 76s. Remember famous flight 50/50* out of ORD?

*nicknamed 5050, because it was a 50/50 chance it would cancel.

thrust 01-04-2023 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 3564992)
Have you taken a European or Asian carrier? We cannot even compare. It's embarrassing.

I’ve flown biz on British Airways and Lufthansa. BA’s biz class was 2-4-2 seating- in every seat you’re staring at your neighbor, sometimes three. It was awkward and claustrophobic. On Lufthansa, it was 2-2-2 I think- forced to step over someone if you had a window. Even United had a garbage 2-4-2 business class product until relatively recently, while AA and DAL had long gone to 1-2-1.

I flew China Eastern in biz- nice 1-2-1 seating, but the entire biz cabin smelled like cigarette smoke. You could literally see smoke coming out of the cockpit as the pilots took down carton after carton over 12+ hours.

JayRalstonSmith 01-04-2023 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 3564992)
Have you taken a European or Asian carrier? We cannot even compare. It's embarrassing.

Agreed. Those carriers are embarrassing. Would rather be on a US carrier than on LH, BA, AF, LO, JL…etc etc.

Arado 234 01-05-2023 04:45 AM

Sure thing Holmes. Lol.

I even non-rev on other carriers if I have the choice, e.g. AA or B6. The only "premium" product we offer is the 321T. Other than that ... 🤢

Cosgr 01-06-2023 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 3565269)
Sure thing Holmes. Lol.

I even non-rev on other carriers if I have the choice, e.g. AA or B6. The only "premium" product we offer is the 321T. Other than that ... 🤢

It does not sound like you non-rev on us at all if you think the 321T is the only premium product we have.

nene 01-06-2023 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 3564999)
Surprisingly, those were much more reliable than the superior 76s. Remember famous flight 50/50* out of ORD?

*nicknamed 5050, because it was a 50/50 chance it would cancel.

Sounds like poor maintenance or parts.....I fly the 767 and can only recall twice in 6 yrs where our flight didn't go because of plane mx.

9easy 01-10-2023 03:28 PM

It looks like AA took/is taking 12 787 deliveries from 2022/23. Are there any rumors about more vacancies for these planes, where they'll be based at? I'd imagine a fair number of 787 pilots will be retiring in the next 5 years as well.

AAL24 01-10-2023 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by 9easy (Post 3568582)
It looks like AA took/is taking 12 787 deliveries from 2022/23. Are there any rumors about more vacancies for these planes, where they'll be based at? I'd imagine a fair number of 787 pilots will be retiring in the next 5 years as well.

They just ran a vacancy bid for next June and the 787 awards were minimal. Quite a few 777 spots though. I’m not sure what’s going on with 787 staffing. People have been saying we were “fat” on pilots for a couple years now but we’ve had a steady stream of retirements without any corresponding big vacancy awards. It’s pretty stagnant. Maybe the increased 787 domestic flying is reducing the required number of pilots on the fleet. Less augmented trips. Or the training department is still FUBAR’d. Who knows…

livingAAdream 01-10-2023 04:50 PM

What is DOH for
ORD 787 most Junior FO
ORD 787 Line holder FO ?


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