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Old 05-29-2019, 04:40 PM
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Nothing more than a random thought, what would projections for a guy or gal hired in the next year timeline be to hold WB CA? Somebody may have guessed before, can’t remember.
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Old 05-29-2019, 05:19 PM
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With group 3 wide bodies going away in the near future I would think it will be a very long time.
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Old 05-29-2019, 06:28 PM
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With group 3 wide bodies going away in the near future I would think it will be a very long time.
With The number of new 787s on order wouldn't that more than make up for the 767s being parked?
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With group 3 wide bodies going away in the near future I would think it will be a very long time.

I wouldn’t even count group 3 as widebody. I mean technically it is but pay wise it only pays $15 more than group 2 when group 4 pays $60/hr more.
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Old 05-29-2019, 07:04 PM
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I wouldn’t even count group 3 as widebody. I mean technically it is but pay wise it only pays $15 more than group 2 when group 4 pays $60/hr more.
I agree.

To the OP, I don’t know a time frame, I’d guess for guys hired in 2014 it’ll be about 2030 to be bottom of the barrel G4 CA in JFK. For our newest hire maybe 2036 to 2037. So maybe 16 to 17 years. Then I think that number will start to rise just based on the limited number of G4 CA jobs at the company vs the number of young new hires.

The 787 replacing the 767 will reduce the number somewhat, but as our new hire age drops, that doesn’t bode well for future new hires in terms of wide body Captain.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:36 AM
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Been here about 18 months, got about 15yr to WB CA.
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Seeing most of the pilots waited 16+ for NB CAP/WB FO I would not call 16 years"forever".
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Seeing most of the pilots waited 16+ for NB CAP/WB FO I would not call 16 years"forever".
I never said that. I know ill never be a wb ca, could care less.
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I never said that. I know ill never be a wb ca, could care less.
Was more or less replying to the whole thread, guess should have quoted, and answered more clearly.

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With group 3 wide bodies going away in the near future I would think it will be a very long time.
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Old 05-30-2019, 08:55 PM
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Total widebody jobs will decrease significantly at AA. Total Group 4 jobs will increase. A321s are replacing a portion of the 767s and some of the 787s are slated to replace older 777s.

Unless we make another big widebody order the numbers don’t add up. Considering the balance sheet another order seems unlikely. Not to mention we can’t seem to operate a reliable international schedule and we run from any routes with real competition. Standby for more domestic widebody flying.
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