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Old 08-10-2019, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
I thought you were supposed to be rested for a full FDP when you show up?
???

I was rested to work until my original schedule had me dutying off, around 10pm Central. (My original FDP.)

The RA they tried to stick me with had me working until 2am.

No thanks.

I’m always rested (or attempt to be rested) for what my original schedule has me working, accounting for some delays...as long as those delays don’t take me too far down the road. If the dElays or RA have me done close to my footprint, then yes, maybe I’ll accept...but it depends on a lot of factors.

You accept an RA that takes you way past what you’re rested for, and you ding the airplane or go off the end... have fun with the the FAA and NTSB.

There is no “mission”, ever.
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Originally Posted by aa73 View Post
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I was rested to work until my original schedule had me dutying off, around 10pm Central. (My original FDP.)



The RA they tried to stick me with had me working until 2am.



No thanks.



I’m always rested (or attempt to be rested) for what my original schedule has me working, accounting for some delays...as long as those delays don’t take me too far down the road. If the dElays or RA have me done close to my footprint, then yes, maybe I’ll accept...but it depends on a lot of factors.



You accept an RA that takes you way past what you’re rested for, and you ding the airplane or go off the end... have fun with the the FAA and NTSB.



There is no “mission”, ever.


Yea i agree.

However, the company expects you to be rested for a full fdp when you show. Obviously if you’re fatigued then don’t fly.

Just relaying what I’ve been told.
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Old 08-11-2019, 05:09 AM
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I expect to fly the sequence I bid, not someone else's that gets randomly tacked onto mine.
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:17 AM
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I expect to fly the sequence I bid, not someone else's that gets randomly tacked onto mine.
I'm a reasonable person and I understand that sometimes the airline will need to reassign us to keep the gears turning smoothly.

In exchange, it would seem fair to pay me for both my original trip and the reassigned flying. At minimum this would be an extra 5:15 per day that isn't my original trip.
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:54 AM
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I'm a reasonable person and I understand that sometimes the airline will need to reassign us to keep the gears turning smoothly.



In exchange, it would seem fair to pay me for both my original trip and the reassigned flying. At minimum this would be an extra 5:15 per day that isn't my original trip.


I 100% agree.

Sometimes we forget that the point of our job is to move airplanes which in turn pays our salary. Our cool layovers or easy trips are secondary to moving people.

If i get legally reassigned to keep the operation going so be it. However, i want to be compensated appropriately for it and I want to finish at the same time or earlier on the last day.

I also think RA should be a last resort after reserves/makeup/og/premium.
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As a Envoy flow hopefull, the idea of ready reserve at American makes me question my life choices.


Have you applied to United?


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Old 08-11-2019, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
I also think RA should be a last resort after reserves/makeup/og/premium.
My regional had this. I'd imagine most other contracts stipulate a better 'order of fulfillment' than we have now (companies discretion basically).

PR (200% or more) had to be offered before anyone out of base could cover a trip. Before CS could split the trip up. Before anyone could be reassigned or taken into an off day or....
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:09 AM
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As a Envoy flow hopefull, the idea of ready reserve at American makes me question my life choices.
Sounds like you need to go somewhere else then. I heard ENY got some nice raises. Why don’t you stay there?
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
Yea i agree.

However, the company expects you to be rested for a full fdp when you show. Obviously if you’re fatigued then don’t fly.

Just relaying what I’ve been told.


If that’s what they expect of us then they should put it in writing in the FOM.


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Old 08-11-2019, 01:35 PM
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It is in the FOM. You’re supposed to rested for any legal assignment. It’s not realistic.
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