Ok, well we have already established that AAG pilots can’t list as a D6. Since everyone is so concerned about reciprocity and being 100% equal, RAH pilots should come last on all AA/WO flights, no matter what their check in time is, which is even worse for you all than before. Since we can’t list as a D6, that’s what RAH is doing to us. I did agree that AAC’s should be able to list as AAC FDJ, but RAH pilots went about it the wrong way by dragging us into your fight. This was between RAH and AA management, the AA and WO pilots didn’t do anything wrong. Now for dragging us into the middle of it, I hope it backfires on you. Congrats, you may make life more difficult for some people who had nothing to do with it, but at least you will make it worse for yourselves as well.

I disagree. I see it as CAs discretion to allow you to ride without D6. I commuted for years and I'll just ask between the D6 and AA/WO who was there first and take the one who was there first

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This. And I’ll happily come up to the gate and explain it to anyone before we close the door and pushback.

Edit for clarity: I’m *NOT* denying ANYONE the jumpseat. I hate leaving any pilot behind and I’ll happily have a RAH pilot up front...but only after we’ve accommodated pilots from any other carrier because that’s what you’re asking YOUR pilots to do. There’s your parity... be careful what you ask for.

Republic guy here.

I would say 99% of our pilot group doesn’t agree with the way this is being handled. It’s a very vocal minority that unfortunately have all the power here. Per our last blast email from the union, it’s up to Repiblic captains to ensure the standby list is cleared properly. As a Repiblic captain, I have zero intention in wasting my precious time during preflight preparations babysitting the standby list.

I don’t care what the time of checkin was, if an AA/AE pilot shows up after an offline pilot, the guy that supports the American operation is getting my Jumpseat (on American painted Republic jets).

I wouldn't say that, you obviously do not commute on AA. Im sure we would all want to see it handled differently, but as the union has stated several times its the AA management who has refused to work with us for YEARS. Now its the pilots that are put in a bad spot.

I think Republic may have won the battle and lost the war.

Exactly, a regional starting a jumpseat war with 20k pilots is probably a stupid strategy. They say it’s not a jumpseat war, but that’s what they are about to start when they start denying D1/D2 FDJ for not being listed “properly.” A jumpseat war wouldn’t be good for anyone, but it would be worse for RAH.

80 planes vs. 2000 planes. Good luck.

As another Republic guy I will say two things, even though I told myself I didn’t want to get into this absurd thread.

First, I am a commuter. On my last trip I commuted to work on Delta, flew an American trip then commuted home on United. Neither Delta or United have an issue giving Republic pilots priority over OAL Pilots, I think most people just think it should be the same across the three. My guess would be that usually whatever airline you do the most trips on would be reflected in who you commute on, I have no data just a guess. A base that has equal flying probably sees equal commutes vs. PHL for example that probably sees most commuters on American.

Secondly, I don’t particularly care for the way this is playing out. It’s hard being a commuter and making it harder on your fellow pilots that didn’t choose the course of action that your taking issue with doesn’t seem right to me. I mean we’re not talking scab pilots here. That being said I don’t know the ins and outs of the negotiations or the history of it.

Moral of the story, I don’t see why it is such a big deal to have American give Republic pilots the same deal they get at DAL and UAL. (And American has the largest ownership stake!). It also doesn’t seem fair or to make it tougher for another pilot group to commute that really hasn’t done anything to you (or me).

I imagine that’s where most rational people are at on this. Hope it gets resolved soon before it creates undue animosity between pilot groups.

Appreciate the rational response. I feel the exact same that both of our unions and management teams put both pilot groups in a bad position. And it’s also a vocal minority making the AA guys look bad.

I will make sure a republic guy goes ahead of an offline guy on my 2 jumpseats. It is just the right thing to do.