Originally Posted by dera

"The operation was a success, but the patient died".

Originally Posted by dera

AAG doesn't care if the RAH guy makes it to work or not.
If you don't, that's RAH problem, not AAG.
If it becomes a common problem, then RAH loses flying, or has to change their policies. RAH is just a contractor. They are easily replaced if their performance starts to drop.

Originally Posted by magnus0322

We aren't just saying it. It's a fact. Look it up. DL and UA pilots also receive priority in a YX jumpseat over OAL. You are a non employee of YX and want to keep your higher priority on YX without giving us the same in return. I hope you enjoy DL, NK, B6, UA pilots getting cleared before you because that's what YX pilots have experienced for years on AA

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Originally Posted by magnus0322

We aren't just saying it. It's a fact. Look it up. DL and UA pilots also receive priority in a YX jumpseat over OAL. You are a non employee of YX and want to keep your higher priority on YX without giving us the same in return. I hope you enjoy DL, NK, B6, UA pilots getting cleared before you because that's what YX pilots have experienced for years on AA

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Originally Posted by jetflyer123

Key word, getting cleared, a function that would require the AA gate agent, an employee of AA who doesn’t give a flying **** about your new policy, to clear them. The captain has no authority to force an agent to clear someone off the standby list. They will close the flight on time with the jumpseat unused. And, if the violate AA policy and clear out of order, we can write them up. So if we are kicked off the jumpseat, which is absolutely the captains discretion, the flight will likely go without anyone in the jumpseat. When you fly on a contract under a flag, you get their policies for clearing the list, like it or not.

Originally Posted by Cujo665

So DL/UA gives a RAH guy the jumpseat ahead of an AA guy, while AA gives the JS to whichever pilot checked in first.....
and that’s a fair reciprocal jumpseat?

You guys are opening a can of worms man. I’d enjoy the current priority above AA on DL/UA before you lose that JS priority too.

The current JS policy at DL/UA could cause an AA/AE flight cancellation because they’re favoring their feed provider.... while AA could have an AE cancel because they treat all offline jumpseaters the same like the reciprocal JS agreement requires?

Yeah, I don’t think AAG is going to like the other two mainlines playing favorites with non employee jumpseaters, while AA continues treating all offline the same.

This is the road you want to go down with 45,000 mainline pilots? Guess who will lose.

The non-rev D6 is unrelated to jumpseating. I do agree IT should add FDJ to your Listing, but that is Sabre and Res, something AAG contracts for. Those changes take a long time.

Originally Posted by jetflyer123

Key word, getting cleared, a function that would require the AA gate agent, an employee of AA who doesn’t give a flying **** about your new policy, to clear them. The captain has no authority to force an agent to clear someone off the standby list. They will close the flight on time with the jumpseat unused. And, if the violate AA policy and clear out of order, we can write them up. So if we are kicked off the jumpseat, which is absolutely the captains discretion, the flight will likely go without anyone in the jumpseat. When you fly on a contract under a flag, you get their policies for clearing the list, like it or not.

Originally Posted by magnus0322

Sorry but no AA employee is going to dictate how the JS on a YX flight is used. The delay will go on AA Gate Agents and trust me it's not the first time I've had to delay a flight to get a JS or nonrevs on. Won't be the last time either. It's just the modus operandi of the culture of your hAAte agents

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Originally Posted by jetflyer123

If the gate agent closes a flight and you take a delay for a non rev/ JS, the delay is coded to the flight crew. No one said anything about dictating the JS, only clearance down the jetbridge beyond the gate area, which you have no control over.

Personally, I say just let you all do your thing and revoke all AA travel privileges including your AAC priority for seats in the back and ID90. The you could travel as a D6 everywhere like everyone else. That is true reciprocity.

Originally Posted by Nh114

They clear out of order on a daily basis. Republic Pilots list on Travel Planner just like AA and WO does. We get an AAC code behind D2, in front of D3, D6 etc. ... Let’s say we use travel planner and list as AAC and check in 24 prior because there are plenty of seats ... there are a few D3s listed and a few OAL D6 listed... plenty of seats.

Some earlier flight cancels and flight has filled up, the D1 and D2s get on but no room for AAC except for JS. The nice gate agent says they can’t put AAC in the JS... but they were next in line on the standby list using Travel Planner. Now they have to cancel on Travel Planner and create a listing using myIDTravel. Well the Mokulele guy who already listed for D6 gets it. List is processed out of order because the AAC who was next has to cancel Travel Planner and relist on myID.