Thoughts on Bailouts?
#91
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I'm trying to do public math. But hear me out. I'm trying to figure AA's bare bones no flight ops monthly cost. Why? Because I don't think we are going to get a cash infusion (grant).
~200 WB @ $1m per month = $200m
~800 NB @ $250k per month = $200m
~600 RJs @ $100k per month = $60m
Total AC leases $460m per month
Keep CP's and fleet managers/Supv on staff only, ~$20m per month (guess)
No FAs, rampers, agents, DX, and furlough 50% mtc folks but 30% of corporate = $75m
Gate leases and airport space = ?? Maybe $100m/month
Debt payments $100m/month
Round up to $1.0-$1.2b per month. This is about what you get if looking at our annual report and taking 30% of labor costs, and zeroing or nearly zeroing our most other categories (get roughly $13b in annual cash costs).
Start selling tickets for August spool up. Would leave us with around $2-$3b in cash with no government loans (so would be more with them).
I think this is the only way we can survive.
~200 WB @ $1m per month = $200m
~800 NB @ $250k per month = $200m
~600 RJs @ $100k per month = $60m
Total AC leases $460m per month
Keep CP's and fleet managers/Supv on staff only, ~$20m per month (guess)
No FAs, rampers, agents, DX, and furlough 50% mtc folks but 30% of corporate = $75m
Gate leases and airport space = ?? Maybe $100m/month
Debt payments $100m/month
Round up to $1.0-$1.2b per month. This is about what you get if looking at our annual report and taking 30% of labor costs, and zeroing or nearly zeroing our most other categories (get roughly $13b in annual cash costs).
Start selling tickets for August spool up. Would leave us with around $2-$3b in cash with no government loans (so would be more with them).
I think this is the only way we can survive.
Last edited by Name User; 03-22-2020 at 04:53 PM.
#92
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 618
I'm trying to do public math. But hear me out. I'm trying to figure AA's bare bones no flight ops monthly cost. Why? Because I don't think we are going to get a cash infusion (grant).
~200 WB @ $1m per month = $200m
~800 NB @ $250k per month = $200m
~600 RJs @ $100k per month = $60m
Total AC leases $460m per month
Keep CP's and fleet managers/Supv on staff only, ~$20m per month (guess)
No FAs, rampers, agents, DX, and furlough 50% mtc folks but 30% of corporate = $75m
Gate leases and airport space = ?? Maybe $100m/month
Debt payments $100m/month
Round up to $1.0-$1.2b per month. This is about what you get if looking at our annual report and taking 30% of labor costs, and zeroing or nearly zeroing our most other categories (get roughly $13b in annual cash costs).
Start selling tickets for August spool up. Would leave us with around $2-$3b in cash with no government loans (so would be more with them).
I think this is the only way we can survive.
~200 WB @ $1m per month = $200m
~800 NB @ $250k per month = $200m
~600 RJs @ $100k per month = $60m
Total AC leases $460m per month
Keep CP's and fleet managers/Supv on staff only, ~$20m per month (guess)
No FAs, rampers, agents, DX, and furlough 50% mtc folks but 30% of corporate = $75m
Gate leases and airport space = ?? Maybe $100m/month
Debt payments $100m/month
Round up to $1.0-$1.2b per month. This is about what you get if looking at our annual report and taking 30% of labor costs, and zeroing or nearly zeroing our most other categories (get roughly $13b in annual cash costs).
Start selling tickets for August spool up. Would leave us with around $2-$3b in cash with no government loans (so would be more with them).
I think this is the only way we can survive.
#95
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where did you get that info? I see 116 new cases on the 21st and new 82 cases on the 22nd. Not a lot of new cases but last week they did have it down to 0. Now it’s creesping up again. I bet this will be the story until a vaccine comes out.
#96
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That's a non factor, there are 1.4 billion people there.
#98
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I really, really, hope I'm wrong but honestly do you see people going back over there any time soon? Maybe London. But I wouldn't touch Europe as a tourist until a vaccine is available. Although, super cheap hotels and flights might entice people (but no yield in that).
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