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Old 03-26-2020, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AZFlyer View Post
You are correct. There are many stations where ground ops for AA is not handled by AA employees. It is a point of contention for AA rampers/agents, as you can imagine. They have their own scope troubles to deal with. Not to state the obvious, but Parker would love to drastically reduce the number of stations that are crewed by AA employees.
Absolutely true. I am a former mainline agent from GSO, never had much seniority anyway as I quit to fly, but contention is an understatement. American was already contracted out, so the mainline US agents and Envoy started working together in Oct. of 2015. You can imagine how well that worked out. The contrast between polished career agents making a decent livable wage and people making minimum wage to get flight benefits is stark and was embarrassing.
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AFTrainerGuy View Post
honestly... I think no one from Trump, Congress, medical experts, Wall Street, Doug, Captains who’ve “been there”, me, you, or anyone else have any clue how this play out. Wild speculation at best.

this is a “new one” for America and at this point all you can do is sit back and prepare for worst and hope for best. I literally kept myself up at nights worrying and reading and wondering and crunching numbers. I’ve gone over my finances and no exactly where I sit and how long I can go without a job.

I’m done with it. No more news. No more watching stock market. No more AA/APA blasts. I’m putting a hiatus on all of it and gonna take advantage of this time to connect with my kids, make some long overdue phone calls to old friends, help my neighbors out who need some help, and fix some crap around the house. All I can do. I’m not that smart and people wouldn’t listen to my ideas anyway.
You Sir, are wise beyond your years. Thanks for the uplifting message.
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Old 03-26-2020, 01:39 PM
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let’s hope so. It makes sense though... we’re going to have an excess of pilots no matter what. They would be better suited to man the operation for their “plan” 6-9 months down the road from now to minimize training. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense to push a ton of guys down the list if they aren’t going to furlough.

That’s what I’m thinking. I could see displacements if they furlough, but not right now.
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bababouey View Post
They are trying to avoid secondary displacements, that’s comes straight from the vacancy team. But I’m not holding my breath.


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Is this up to date info with the 330 and 190?AA or APA saying this? I sure hope you are right. Im on the Jr side of capt as well.
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Old 03-27-2020, 04:04 AM
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Supposedly the head of vacancies at AA is saying this... for what that’s worth...
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Old 03-27-2020, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB View Post
Supposedly the head of vacancies at AA is saying this... for what that’s worth...
yeah, they still have a few new hires to train, then all the 76/190 guys to spin up on their new jets, which hopefully will take us through the fall when they can reassess and see if they need to displace more, furlough or whatever.
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Saabs View Post
we fly to plenty of spots that have eagle or piedmont rampers and gate agents.
true but if the yearly total, I THINK, gets to a certain number of mainline fights then that station has to be run with mainline employees...i.e it’s a huge cost advantage for Delta not having to worry about this scope clause...again this is what I have heard/been told, I don’t have a written reference to prove it.
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Old 03-28-2020, 05:06 AM
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true but if the yearly total, I THINK, gets to a certain number of mainline fights then that station has to be run with mainline employees...i.e it’s a huge cost advantage for Delta not having to worry about this scope clause...again this is what I have heard/been told, I don’t have a written reference to prove it.
No. That was an Airways thing. No such requirement at the merged airline. I.e RSW is an envoy station. How many RJs are there?
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Old 03-28-2020, 05:11 AM
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Regarding scope for ground team members, the IAM/TWU just ratified their new contract in the last day or two. 90+% yes vote. Havent heard what, if any changes to scope there are in their new contract though.
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Old 03-28-2020, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rockiepilot View Post
No. That was an Airways thing. No such requirement at the merged airline. I.e RSW is an envoy station. How many RJs are there?
well until 2 days ago they were still operating under separate contracts, were they not? So I think that still applied to some stations.
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