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Swakid8 06-19-2020 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by bababouey (Post 3077969)
So I get why fewer fleets is more cost effective, but why is Delta the most profitable flying a billion different fleet types, many that are very fuel inefficient? They figure out how to make it work somehow.


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‘Delta runs a leaner operation than either AA or UA and was commanding higher yields network.

Varsity 06-19-2020 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by bababouey (Post 3077969)
So I get why fewer fleets is more cost effective, but why is Delta the most profitable flying a billion different fleet types, many that are very fuel inefficient? They figure out how to make it work somehow.


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They fly out of secondary city hubs with less competition; SLC, MSP, DTW, ATL..

Elismcpikle 06-19-2020 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by DoggiePoo (Post 3076912)
Read it and weep. Your time will come. This industry does it to most. If you actually are, dare I say, fortunate enough to make it to 65. The industry will literally bring you down to earth. If you heed the warnings to live prudently. If not. Well, sucks to be you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/10/b...ak-future.html

thanks for the May 10th article on a situation that changes by the hour.

OOfff 06-19-2020 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by varsity (Post 3078006)
they fly out of secondary city hubs with less competition; slc, msp, dtw, atl..

phx, phl, clt 🤔

Varsity 06-20-2020 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3078103)
phx, phl, clt 🤔

phx has tons of competition. Southwest is the largest carrier there right now. PHL is competitive with a large frontier and southwest presence. Charlotte is indeed, not competitive, and the most profitable hub for AA.

AllYourBaseAreB 06-20-2020 05:46 AM

Southwest‘s presence in PHL had diminished greatly from peak, years ago. In 2018 AA had 70% of seats, Southwest 8.1%

bababouey 06-20-2020 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3077971)
‘Delta runs a leaner operation than either AA or UA and was commanding higher yields network.


Will the 30% mgmt pink slips help that you think? How much more money do they save having basically one union on property? I know they have advantages, but their gap in profitability is staggering. They’re worth over 3 times what we are now, we’ll see what everything looks like when the covid dust settles.


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Varsity 06-20-2020 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB (Post 3078184)
Southwest‘s presence in PHL had diminished greatly from peak, years ago. In 2018 AA had 70% of seats, Southwest 8.1%

In 2018 PHL had 31,691,956 passengers. 22,136,137 were AA.

69% Market share. Not enough to maintain pricing power. Not to mention the competition from EWR and BWI. I used to live in Philly and would just drive to BWI.

chrisreedrules 06-20-2020 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by bababouey (Post 3078188)
Will the 30% mgmt pink slips help that you think? How much more money do they save having basically one union on property? I know they have advantages, but their gap in profitability is staggering. They’re worth over 3 times what we are now, we’ll see what everything looks like when the covid dust settles.


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All 3 legacies end up in bankruptcy I think is the most likely scenario. UA goes first. AA next. Delta won’t want to feel left out.

Buzzlightyear 06-20-2020 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3078218)
All 3 legacies end up in bankruptcy I think is the most likely scenario. UA goes first. AA next. Delta won’t want to feel left out.

Parker’s gone and nothing but a footnote of aviation history then. IMO he is gunning for Crandall, Bethune and Kelleher status.


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