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Old 08-28-2020, 09:15 PM
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for the AA FO who barely misses any furlough on Oct 1, say 2600 from bottom, what is the “revised” upgrade time to Captain.

considering all the early retirements/etc., I was wondering.

pre COVID it was what ? 6 years ?
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Old 08-29-2020, 04:24 AM
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for the AA FO who barely misses any furlough on Oct 1, say 2600 from bottom, what is the “revised” upgrade time to Captain.

considering all the early retirements/etc., I was wondering.

pre COVID it was what ? 6 years ?

Dude, the company may not survive and you’re asking about upgrade times? Nobody knows anything, why do you care anyways?


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Old 08-29-2020, 05:02 AM
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So many variables, you can have any number you want based on the assumptions you make, all of which are “reasonable”
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Old 08-29-2020, 05:19 AM
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So many variables, you can have any number you want based on the assumptions you make, all of which are “reasonable”
Correct. There are just too many "unknowables."
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Old 08-29-2020, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
for the AA FO who barely misses any furlough on Oct 1, say 2600 from bottom, what is the “revised” upgrade time to Captain.

considering all the early retirements/etc., I was wondering.

pre COVID it was what ? 6 years ?
I think the junior CA is still a 5-6 guy. As far as the future.. who knows.
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Old 08-29-2020, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
for the AA FO who barely misses any furlough on Oct 1, say 2600 from bottom, what is the “revised” upgrade time to Captain.

considering all the early retirements/etc., I was wondering.

pre COVID it was what ? 6 years ?
Now 3 years after retirement.
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Old 08-29-2020, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by senecacaptain View Post
for the AA FO who barely misses any furlough on Oct 1, say 2600 from bottom, what is the “revised” upgrade time to Captain.

considering all the early retirements/etc., I was wondering.

pre COVID it was what ? 6 years ?
pre covid we recently had people awarded NYC 737 CA with about 3 years on property I think, they have since been pushed back to FO...Magic 8 ball keeps telling me to "ask again later" and "cannot predict now". I have been on property 6 years now and dont expect to see an upgrade in my seniority range for at least another 2 years...that of course assumes we make it through this, and all furloughed pilots are called back with 2 years...but honestly its way way to hard to figure right now and anything is just a wild a$$ guess.
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Old 08-29-2020, 08:57 AM
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Those super junior LGA 737I CAs were a bidding anomaly. It was a tiny bid status. The company posted no new openings for it. Then proceeded to more than double its size with awards. It was dumb luck for the guys that had it in their standing bid.

after the displacement bid the most junior CA in October will be a 6/2014 hire
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“Bid everything you ever wanted and nothing that you don’t”. I hope every JR FO at AA has 777 captain in every base. You never know.
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Old 08-29-2020, 09:25 AM
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Junior CA has pretty consistently been around 70% company wide seniority. It’s not hard to look at your seniority, figure out retirements and go from there. The big variable is how many pilots the recovered AA will need, less than 10k, up to 15k, somewhere in there?
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