Originally Posted by AAL24 (Post 3281205)

Doug actually agreed to some very good work rules at AWA. He gave the mechanics an industry leading contract just prior to Covid. What it will take is for the pilot group to collectively grow a pair and let DP know we will no longer work for less than industry standard. The mechanics laid out the playbook. There leaders were very vocal and the operation fell apart. Then they got an injunction. Following that things remained f@cked up. Then they got a contract.

Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3281240)

Your timeline is a bit off. The mechanics in fact were not happy with the final contract offer because of outsourcing, and they did not sign it pre COVID. They signed during COVID because Parker honored his last offer and they knew the position of strength was gone. Shoot the whole airline might be. If not for COVID they’d still be without a contract.

Originally Posted by AAL24 (Post 3281205)

Doug actually agreed to some very good work rules at AWA. He gave the mechanics an industry leading contract just prior to Covid. What it will take is for the pilot group to collectively grow a pair and let DP know we will no longer work for less than industry standard. The mechanics laid out the playbook. There leaders were very vocal and the operation fell apart. Then they got an injunction. Following that things remained f@cked up. Then they got a contract.

Originally Posted by Route66 (Post 3281577)

After the 2013 merger, who negotiated:
1: pay raises
2: profit sharing (not great, noted)
3: positive space travel passes for two
4. $1000
?….

Originally Posted by saabs (Post 3281750)

last pay raises were gifted to us by management.

Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3281583)

5. Average calendar day
6. got rid of social security offset for LTD.

Improvements have been made, but only when Parker really needed some kind of relief from us.

Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3280684)

What you pro ALPA folks seem to be missing is that there’s a fundamental difference between UAL/DAL and AA, and it’s significantly more important than the name of your union. DAL and UAL aren’t negotiating with Doug Parker, we are. I don’t care how strong your union is or how competent your negotiators are, you need some good faith negotiations coming back at you from across the table. If one party’s sole intent is to drag out negotiations forever only to be put on ice by some judge 5 years down the road, then no union on earth can secure an ILC.