Angry Trollilli!

dude, lol...... you’re a pathetic loser, always will be. No matter what you post.... you got it, still a loser. Long posts? Why waste my time, it’s far more valuable than yours. You’re clueless, obviously got turned down by AA and have no career backup. Oh and by the way, Delta has almost as much debt as American, it’s due sooner, at a higher rate too. Moron Lol!!!!!!!

Laughing at your own joke, pretty creepy.

He's right though. Lol!!!!!!!!!

You have some serious insecurities. Financially not stable? Little wiener? Hate to break it to you, but if you had access to some reliable financial analysis, I'm guessing you don't, you'd know Delta is a sell.

Why are you guys feeding the trolls? It's clear 60% of the posters on this thread are clueless and most likely wannabe or regional pilots that got turned down by American. The Delta pilots I know wouldn't post such garbage. Mods this thread is a joke I suggest closing it.

Yawn 🥱 is that all you got? My favorite part was when you called me a moron then “laughed out loud” at your own insult.

Well thankfully I made a huge bet on EV stocks back in July, so my finances are doing better than just fine. If these space stocks I just loaded up on recently make a big run maybe I’ll just buy American myself when it’s worth pennies on dollar.

Anyways is this really the best you got???

what kind of sick ******* gets off on trying to spread fear among fellow human beings who may be in a very precarious financial and emotional situation due to this pandemic? Are you that clueless or just don’t care about the damage you may be causing to someone’s life by being a troll? I asked you to post your stats before, but you’re too much of a p**** to even do that. Personally, I could care less what you write because you only make yourself sound dumber, but there are others on here who actually may believe the false crap you spew. Get a clue.

I've wondered the same thing. If you review his or her post history, you see that it's overwhelmingly negative. Really negative. Angry person, or just someone who enjoys stirring the pot on forums.

I've wondered the same thing. If you review his or her post history, you'll notice that it's overwhelmingly negative. Really negative. This person has spent much (most) of his or her time in various Regional and mainline forums lecturing to and arguing with everyone. Angry person with a serious chip on his or her shoulder, or just someone who enjoys stirring the pot on forums.

I work for Delta, and I’m not hoping for AA to fail. So I cancel that guy out. If any carrier goes into chapter 11, we all suffer. Good luck guys and girls.

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Take a deep breath and settle down. He or she is nothing but a clown, trolling for a reaction, you’re feeding it. Honestly your response is just as embarrassing. Stop being so dramatic and grow up.

Ha what? Because I called him out I should “grow up” ? Ok.... 🤔 If you read what I wrote you’d notice that I said that what he’s posting doesn’t affect me at all, however there are some on here that don’t post, yet are on edge due to the current environment. Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.

Who do you work for?

American Airlines. And you?

SkyWest Airlines. Thanks for the reply.

Just wanted to know what airline would hire such an emotionally unstable individual.

Haha that made me laugh thank you. What’s the saying you guys like to say? “Skywest mainline” 😂 you’re doing great kid

He's a spurned regional lifer whose upset he 'got screwed' out of a shot at the big leagues so he's just projecting his personal and professional shortcomings onto mainline guys just to have his voice heard. That's all it is. Nobody should really take anything seriously on an internet forum much less let a complete moron get a rise out of you, which is exactly his intention. Just a useless troll. Might not even be a pilot, maybe an angry million miler who knows. Definitely not who they say they are however.

https://youtu.be/CtOEig1l8SA

Now that we’ve all paid the troll toll, can we move on?

What a great response from the same individual who was so upset no more than a few hours ago because someone was trolling his apparent airline.

You’re probably still at Envoy making the claim you’ve already “flowed” to American.

Yeah worked there for years and never heard anyone say anything about “skywest mainline” except for joking about how good the 175 guys had it vs the CRJ guys. I have heard several envoy pilots say they were AA...couldn’t roll my eyes hard enough.

I’ll second E’s in post here, hope we all pull through this relatively in tact.

That’s always been the joke between CRJ and ERJ guys and gals at SkyWest. As someone who was CRJ switched to ERJ, yeah the flying is substantially better, and the 175 is a sweet jet, no doubt.

I’m fairly certain some other regional guys overheard the joke not knowing the background behind it and turned it into “SkyWest” thinks they’re “Mainline”, and ran with it. The irony is they clearly think more of us then we do of ourselves.

Yeah worked at envoy for years and never heard anyone say anything about “AA” except for joking about how good the 175 guys had it vs the 145 guys. I have heard several Skywest pilots say they were mainline...couldn’t roll my eyes hard enough.

shouldn’t have included the part about Envoy... but I can honestly say I never worked with anyone at OO who thought the “mainline” thing was anything but a joke. My point was the only regional group I ever saw say they were mainline was affiliated with AA (BC an AA pilot went off about Skywest mainline) Every pilot group has their 5%, OO had theirs and I’m sure the envoy guys who insist they are AA like theKooj guy does are part of their 5%.

What I care about is that we are (trying to have) a conversation about bankruptcy here at AA, while I see e170s flying between hubs and I was out of a job and probably will be out of a job in a few months. And those guys flying the jets talking about how great it is they are seeing new cities without having a clue what they’re really saying. So forgive me for saying not only do I not care about what Skywest and envoy think of themselves, I really don’t want to have to read through it on an AA forum. No disrespect but take it elsewhere

Your union APA gave them the flying, own up to it and face it. No disrespect.

Agree on that. I was kinda surprised a Skywest pilot had the audacity to come onto an American thread, question where I work and try to throw insults around, but whatever. The hub-to-hub flying on RJ's sucks, but as long as it doesn't violate scope, there's not much we can do...you get what you negotiate and don't expect management to do you any favors out of the goodness of their hearts.

My biggest concern going forward is like most, lack of revenue. I think we're in for a few rough years ahead, but as long as revenue and passengers make a decent semblance of a comeback, I don't see bankruptcy in our future. That's a big IF though. My other big concern is the possibility of a JetBlue merger and how it will decimate the seniority list, specifically the career expectations of younger AA pilots towards the bottom of the list (yes, that's where I stand.)

That being said, I personally don't stress about any of the above because it's all out of my hands.

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............................ Smdh the “audacity”.

C’mon. Just stop please. Move on.

You think that guys that got furloughed were on property when the scope clause was voted on?

You missed my point entirely. I came on this American Airlines thread to read about bankruptcy (or not, in my opinion) at American Airlines. I did not come here to read about the difference between Embraer regional jets, being flown by many people who genuinely believe their new city pairs are a good thing, while thousands here don’t have job security. The scope clause “is what it is”. Doesn’t mean anyone here gives a flying F about talking about ejets.

The only thing worse than a troll here solely to make you feel crappy about what they perceive as your financial insecurity is this tone deaf bs. I didn’t mean any disrespect in any way, but I am saying have some awareness

It looks like Finessed has been banned thankfully. I came back to search his posts because I honestly don’t think he’s a Delta pilot and wanted to verify. Being a Delta Pilot myself, I was honestly completely embarrassed by the way he was talking to you all. It’s been troubling me the last 2 days, but I’m about 90% sure he isn’t one of us. I know Delta Pilots catch quite a bit of crap in the industry for various reasons. Some of it might be deserved, but I haven’t witnessed the behaviors that most of the ridicule points to.

Having said that, no decent person wants to see any of you suffer a job loss or BK. I went through it in 2000 with thousands of others, and don’t want it to happen again to anyone. I really think things will pick up by summer and we will all escape this mess well before going through the BK wringer again. And as has been said before, if AA does go BK, we will all be right behind you all. The media needs to write something others want to read, and unfortunately, people like Finessed like to read and talk about the misfortune of others, so that’s what they write about, whether they know what they’re talking about or not...doesn’t matter.

I think finessed works for an AA subsidiary and hasn’t or can’t flow. Or has been rejected by AA for psychological reasons and has an axe to grind. Maybe he works for Mesa or someone who doesn’t have a flow.

Please don’t let his behavior affect your view of Delta Pilots. We are a pretty decent bunch, and no one I’ve spoken to has any hopes of things going south for you guys. We are too busy talking about hat size, or our double breasted jacket size. That’s pretty much all we talk about. Oh, we also talk a lot about the importance of wind checks and the difference between light chop and light turbulence. :-)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesasquith/2020/03/31/analysis-how-much-money-do-empty-flights-really-cost-airlines/

I’d recommend giving this a read. I posted it prior, but it got stepped over by Finessed creating havoc.

Flying an empty airplane at 25% capacity taking a $20,000 loss per flight isn’t giving you more job security than a regional jet flying the same route at profitability. A full flight in a mainline jet profits $10,000 yet an empty flight could costs you more than 2 flights at full capacity, think about that.

Also consider the normal route structure for a regional. Which is feeding small airports to a major hub (in most cases would never be a profitable route for a mainline jet), bringing passengers in to fill mainline jets (job security). The flight loads at American or any other major would be decreased significantly. Grandma and Grandpa won’t bother with a 4 hour drive to the major hub that will fly them to their eventual destination.

I came to OO a couple of years ago from a 141 school with student loan debt. I have zero intentions of being a regional lifer and I’m not a cheerleader for increased regional flying. Just trying to make the point, be careful for what you wish for.

Sorry to hear you’re on the wrong side of the list, wish you the best for a quick recall.

I think you are missing the big picture. The contract AA has is what is causing all the shift in the flying to an outside source .

Do not take your anger out at me because AA has RJs doing most of the flying. That is a poor excuse, saying you where not here for the giveaway of the scope . You are reaping the pay benefits from the scope concession APA gave . No disrespect in any way. :)


Side bar. If your concern is bankruptcy, AA is not even close. The stock had almost doubled from its low, AAL is not viewed as a company that is about to file .

That has nothing to do with whether or not AA will have to file bankruptcy.

Correct. It does show how Wall Street feels. If AAL was moving in that direction the stock price would be closer to 3 bucks a share .

Thanks, do you have any articles explaining how airplanes fly for me to read next my man?

The point you were trying to make isn’t the whole picture. RJs have higher cost per available seat mile than mainline airplanes. They are more expensive to operate. So why would a business use them? You pointed toward the answer, which is to bring passengers from smaller cities to our hubs, where they will get on a mainline aircraft. In other words, deal with the lower cost per available seat mile of regional jets because they make us money by filling our bigger, truly profitable airplanes. Great!

Now tell me, given this, how can you use that as justification for flying four e170s between NYC and Miami daily, when a 321 twice daily would be much more efficient to operate in every metric imaginable? I use this example of NYC and Miami because it’s exactly what AA is doing, and it’s far from the only example.

Anyway I’m about to go eat a bowl of cereal, do you have an article you can show me explaining how it’s done :D

This is the same market pumping Hertz, Nikola, and GameStop. A stock price these days is meaningless with respect to a company’s financial performance.