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04-17-2023, 07:36 PM

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memphisflyer

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Originally Posted by highfarfast

This really isn’t new. They’ve done this before many times. Given the swollen number of hires on the surrounding months when they do this, it’s clearly to subvert the contracts they signed with the wholly owned pilots.

So should a pilot that received a CJO last week that's not at a WO regional now expect a class date at the end of the summer?

04-17-2023, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by memphisflyer

So should a pilot that received a CJO last week that's not at a WO regional now expect a class date at the end of the summer?

I have no idea how long it is from CJO to class date. But do expect there to be larger class sizes in adjacent months. It's what they've done before. AA can still hit hiring goals by skipping a month. All this does is slow down flow for them.

04-18-2023, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm

Who it really sucks for are the pilots at the AA Regionals who trusted to company to do the right thing. Instead, they chose to stay at the regional airline to flow to AA and AA screwed them over by pulling garbage like this.

LOL. Never, ever trust AA to do the right thing.

04-18-2023, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by memphisflyer

So should a pilot that received a CJO last week that's not at a WO regional now expect a class date at the end of the summer?

You might be in line for a late May class. Four weeks from CJO to class date for some recently but it's not exactly first in-first out.

04-18-2023, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by thrust

LOL. Never, ever trust AA to do the right thing.

Yep, AA said they were going to hire over 2000 last year too. Actual totals were closer to 1700. Don't count on class sizes increasing after the break.

04-18-2023, 09:26 AM

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Yep, AA said they were going to hire over 2000 last year too. Actual totals were closer to 1700. Don't count on class sizes increasing after the break.

It's a little more than 1700. Seeing how totals are published at 1828 for pilots hired last year. But your point is still made. Definitely below the 2k goal

04-18-2023, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AirWrecka

Interesting. I assume there is a contractual agreement that each class must have a certain number of flows? That is a bit of a bummer for everyone else in class that isn’t a flow.

The agreement is for flows per month that AA holds classes . If it wanted to, AA could super size the class sizes in May, cancel classes in June, July and August, increase class sizes September October November and finish out the year holding back 4 months of WO pilots to help their staffing. Alternatively, AA could run full classes after a one month freeze and withhold flows until the last class of the year and fulfill the flow through agreements.

In reality, AA holds all the cards Re:flow throughs. However, every time they mess with the flow, they motivate more of their WO pilots to leave.

04-18-2023, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ImSoSuss

Yep, AA said they were going to hire over 2000 last year too. Actual totals were closer to 1700. Don't count on class sizes increasing after the break.

your such a ray of sunshine