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BFMthisA10 08-08-2021 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 3275736)
I have friends that were hired in Dec ish of 2019, and can’t quite hold it yet. That said, by the end of 2022 I bet it’s back down to 6 to 9 months. DFW NB Captain is pretty jr now too, not LGA jr but on par with LAX and jr to MIA. 320 CA is Jr to 737 CA currently. We will know more soon when our bid award comes out.

Someone hired in Dec 2019 is only four months from the bottom of the list.
Likewise, someone hired in October 2019 was able to hold DFW on their first bid out of indoc.

Last month it was awarded about 450 from the bottom (or about 9 months of hiring).

EagleVol 08-08-2021 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by BFMthisA10 (Post 3276250)
Someone hired in Dec 2019 is only four months from the bottom of the list.
Likewise, someone hired in October 2019 was able to hold DFW on their first bid out of indoc.

Last month it was awarded about 450 from the bottom (or about 9 months of hiring).

Only on the 737

BFMthisA10 08-09-2021 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by EagleVol (Post 3276304)
Only on the 737

True
Question was about holding DFW, not DFW78.
For someone starting Indoc next week, little difference if they get LGA32 in their class bid, with only a six month seat lock, and the small trend of the past two vacancies, DFW will end up well under a year. Again.

Dobbs18 08-09-2021 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by BFMthisA10 (Post 3276440)
True
Question was about holding DFW, not DFW78.
For someone starting Indoc next week, little difference if they get LGA32 in their class bid, with only a six month seat lock, and the small trend of the past two vacancies, DFW will end up well under a year. Again.

there are only a few bases that have consistently taken a year or more to hold(with the occasional exception), CLT, BOS, and ORD. All the other bases should be easily held within a year for future new hires…that being said those bases could be held within the year for future new hires as past results are not predictors of future performance, haha.

PRS Guitars 08-09-2021 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by BFMthisA10 (Post 3276250)
Someone hired in Dec 2019 is only four months from the bottom of the list.
Likewise, someone hired in October 2019 was able to hold DFW on their first bid out of indoc.

Last month it was awarded about 450 from the bottom (or about 9 months of hiring).

We are in agreement.

RealOttoPilot 08-10-2021 11:57 AM

What do current new hires look like when it comes to qualifications? College degree? 121 pic time? Volunteer at ALPA? Check airman?

But seriously 08-10-2021 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by RealOttoPilot (Post 3277324)
What do current new hires look like when it comes to qualifications? College degree? 121 pic time? Volunteer at ALPA? Check airman?

Anyone being hired right now is either a flow through, or was offered a CJO back in MAR 2020. The qualifications they had aren’t going to be a great indicator of who might be selected now.

Theaveragejoker 08-10-2021 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by RealOttoPilot (Post 3277324)
What do current new hires look like when it comes to qualifications? College degree? 121 pic time? Volunteer at ALPA? Check airman?

Got any parents that are AA pilots?

Tjeff 08-10-2021 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by RealOttoPilot (Post 3277324)
What do current new hires look like when it comes to qualifications? College degree? 121 pic time? Volunteer at ALPA? Check airman?

4 year degree 3.64 GPA non aviation
3000 TT all civilian
1500 121, 500 TPIC
No LCA, no ALPA volunteer
1 checkride failure CFI initial

No parents or special connections, worked for an AA WO and had a bunch of LORs and sent my cover letter to recruiters. Got the video interview invite January and CJO February 2020. I did have my app professionally reviewed twice and had an app on file since my first year as an FO at my regional and updated it every single day probably 360 days a year missing a couple days on vacation here and there. It seemed that mold was becoming more and more common I was shocked when I got the video invite. I almost trashed it! It said support nothing with American or congratulations or interview in the header! I never thought I would get the call with those qualifications, everyone I talked to hired outside the flow prior were similar 500-1000 TPIC but they all had a parent at AA. After I got my video I heard a decent number of no parent guys in the same boat getting the call. A majority of them were getting them from convention visits. I have no idea what hiring will look like now though…

Celeste 08-10-2021 07:42 PM

5500 TT, 1400 TPIC, 4000 121, 4 year non aviation degree. Lots of volunteering: pro stands, alpa training committee, alpa communications committee, alpa newhire mentor, local GA aviation community volunteer work, etc.


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