Respectfully, you missed the point. By bringing RJs on board as a part of mainline solves two problems.

There is a shortage of regional CA, as the mainlines are hiring them away rapidly. Being a part of the mainline means they get a seniority number. Spots created by the mainline for RJ CA will create more hours for the FO on the RJs to fly, rather than sitting at home. Thus, a greater number will ready to become CA more quickly on the RJs.

Secondly, this will help create more RJ FO openings to hire into.

These both will help all the spots to better coordinate together, just like narrow body CA create an ample pool on the seniority list to fill wide body CA.

So yea, AA is hiring. And for now, into the 737 and Airbus. Maybe into the E175 soon if the Internet has its way.

It may solve some significant problems but AA will continue to focus on hiring as many qualified pilots as possible on the 737 and 320 for the next few years and once all the qualified candidates are gone they could staple the 3 WO’s to the bottom of the mainline list and hire fresh CFI’s to fill 175 slots while retiring all the 50 seaters. They could replace the 175’s with anything really because scope is gone and attrition is now gone. But that’s probably years away. It’s smart to keep their regional pilots in place and maybe staple them to the bottom of the mainline list further down the road if their three regionals dry up and more importantly their mainline hiring pool dries up.

If they stapled the WO’s to the bottom today the mainline hiring pool would dry up over night. That’s more important anyways than the regionals they control and the current issues they’re having with attrition.

This right here. The ramifications of bringing in the WOs while the other two don't bring regional feeds in house are dire.

Well, respectfully, we’ll have to just disagree. Believe me, it’s not that I’m against it, I just don’t think your logic works. There won’t be anymore openings or hours.

If you knew how much AA is struggling to staff their regionals and what extraordinary measures are being taken to fix this, you would start to think differently.

If you knew how much the failing regionals are costing AA right now with their decreased feed, and what it is projected to be by the end of the summer, you would certainly think differently.

Your points are valid, but you seem to be missing a great deal of information. The cost to AA right now for the regional staffing shortage is astronomical. AA's entire plan is to build the most robust domestic network and then use that to grow the international market. The domestic market is the linchpin to the whole strategy. AA needs their regionals to be nearly twice the size that they are right now to accomplish this, not shrinking by the day.

Remember, regional passengers out of small town America are who fill the mainline seats going to high priced destinations both on mainline AA metal and codeshare flights.

DAL and UAL are replacing regional flying with NB flying with less frequency. AA will have to do the same. They don’t need to double anything involving regional flying. GMAFB with that small town bull$hit.

What exactly are you saying? Are you implying that people from smaller cities do not go on vacation or to Europe/Asia?

I’m telling you NB’s flown by mainline American pilots can replace the flying. You could send a 73 once or twice a day. Less fuel burn, more available seats compared to clapped out 50 seaters.

I’m saying this transition is already happening at DAL and UAL.

I think you misunderstood what I said, so I will say it again and slower this time...

AA's strategy right now (right or wrong) requires a great deal of regional lift. It is the master plan that Isom and Vasu have come up with. It doesn't matter who flys those airplanes (mainline or regional pilots), but there need to be hundreds of smaller airplanes flying around to smaller cities that connect those passengers to the bigger markets. Sure, some of that can be done on 319's, but you can't send 6 or 7 319's per day from Kansas City to Charlotte. That is what AA wants to do...have a lot of frequency from smaller cities to connect passengers to their network.

Yes, DAL and UAL are replacing SOME regional flying with NB flying, and DAL already has its own regional airplanes (A220s).

But AA wants to have the largest and most robust domestic airline. To realistically accomplish this, AA needs to start bringing 175s in house and flying them with mainline pilots. This will end the constant attrition that AA currently has with pilots flying RJs. In addition, I would love it if AA bought some 220s (or not have gotten rid on the 190s), but that is not likely to happen.

OR... AA can reverse it's strategy and just build an incomplete domestic network that lacks frequency and is challenging to connect many cities like what UAL currently has.

Having only 2 flights per day is not what customers want, and it is not what they are willing to pay for. Frequency and timing is what passengers want and will pay for. But more importantly, it is not what AA wants to do and has been very vocal about it.

I agree completely that in theory many of these cities can be connected with just a couple mainline flights per day. Also, you could serve the smaller cities with flights to just one hub instead of 2 or 3. There are small cities that currently have flights to PHL, CLT, DFW, and LGA. One small city gets flights to 4 hubs every day. This is what a robust network is and what AA's strategy is. Like it or not, that is what AA is doing and they can't do it without RJs. If they change their strategy, then they can do with the UAL model and ditch the RJs all together.

They don’t need to send 6-7 50 seat clapped out POS’s that have a higher fuel burn than a 73 max flying the same route. Less frequency BUT more or equal available seats. how many seats are on a 319/320 or 737 compared to an RJ? Less frequency doesn’t mean less available seats. Oh and less frequency equals less fuel costs.

Go read the United next presentation when you have the chance.

Oh, but the customers want to fly in a cramped, small, clapped out POS that’s loud and uncomfortable with no overhead bin space?!

I agree...no one wants to be cramped into an old, clapped out POS 737.

Oh, wait. You meant an RJ.

RJs are no more cramped than a 737. In most cases, the RJs are newer than most airplanes in the mainline fleet. And yes, passengers want the schedule and options.

Let's say you work for a major car manufacturer and have a meeting at one of your facilities in Cincinnati until 1pm. You need to get back to Tokyo as soon as possible after the meeting. Do you really only want 2 flights to choose from?? A flight to CLT at 9am or 7pm, and then have to 2 leg it from there to Asia? Or, would you rather have 8 or 9 flights to choose from spread out over multiple different hubs, with one of them being a 3pm to DFW which connects you directly to Tokyo on an AA codeshare airline?

You can disagree all you want, I am just telling you what AAs strategy is. You can say that you don't like it, but it is what AA wants to do. I am telling you that to accomplish their goal, they are saying that that will need a robust network of RJs.

You seriously have no idea what you are even arguing. I am not saying that it is right or what they should do. I am telling you what AA has said that they are going to do and what they are doing.

I have read the UAL plan and it is 100% the opposite of what AA wants to do. UAL is known to have the worst domestic network in the US, and they are ok with it. They offer the least frequency and think that they will succeed with international flights (which they may). But that isn't the game that AA wants to play. AA wants to connect every city in the US with anywhere in the world with as many options as possible. AA says that to do this, they need RJ's.

Yes, there are more seats on a mainline airplane, even if you replace 3 RJ's with 1 mainline aircraft. There is less fuel burn and it is more economical for the airline. But that isn't what AA wants to do. They know these facts, and are willing to believe (based on decades of experience and ticket sales) that having more flight options may cost more, but it will also generate more money in the long game.

G’morning everyone…not to jump in mid-convo or hijack the discussion but just wanted to say I still haven’t heard anything after AA emailed me saying my all was under review and to make sure everything was up to date. I’m guessing things have slowed down or it’s just a waiting game..,

No classes in June. Playing a game with WO flow to avoid as many cancellations as possible during the summer. So expect a pause.

or they just didn’t select you for now? Took me a year to get an interview after a recruiter told me “everything looks great!”

I will flesh out my logic.

Why take a position with the mainline, sooner than later?

1. Get a seniority number on the mainline.
2. Be assured of being hired by a major.
4. Get paid a bit more as a FO on the 737 / A320 than an RJ CA.
4. Fly a bigger plane.

I believe 1 and 2 are the greatest drivers.

If AA takes the short term pain of hiring/holding some into the “former RJ” CA slots rather than all into the FO 737 / A320, they will get more of the current “former RJ” FO, to have enough hours to upgrade more rapidly to “former RJ” CA and FO on the 737 / A320.

If all the “former RJ” slots become a part of AA mainline, they can control the number of slots in each type and seat. They have control of how to optimize, just like they optimize narrow body to wide body upgrade slots.

Take it as something where the long term gains greatly outweighs the short term pains.

Tried a search on this but couldn’t find anything: anyone’s attachments disappear? Tried both safari and chrome and there’s a red x besides attachments. Resume and recommendations are gone.

Mine did.. thought I screwed something up but don't see how I could. Glad I'm not the only one.

Attachments removed also
 

I just noticed the same for me. It looks like the site was updated.

All my stuff is gone this am as well.

i got a job interview on may 17. after the interview, how much time does AA takes to offer a CJO if i pass the interview?

If you’re over 500 hours TPIC and all paperwork is in order, they can offer on the spot. If under 500 TPIC, the board meets every Thursday and reviews that weeks candidates; they notify the next day, on Friday. For your interview date, they will email on May 19th

Ya, I just uploaded my resume' again. My direct internal recommendations were still in the references section.

Did you get something from them asking to re-upload? My stuff has dropped before. I'll give them 24 hours and see if it comes back...unless you were asked to re-upload.

Can someone clarify this, from the email regarding PRIA? How is this interpreted?


'All documents in the PRIA folder completed and signed except Form 806-10 and 8060-10A."



Do they want me to upload in attachments section forms 806-10 and 8060-10A and leave them unsigned?

OR

Are they saying don't upload 806-10 and 8060-10A at all. Only fill out and load the other documents.

Also, don’t sweat it, you can ask talent services all kind of questions and if you F* up anything, they triple check everything and will let you know so that you can fix whatever it is.

It must have something to do with the pilotcredentials.com website, because SWA application also dropped the attachments... or so I've heard.

Anyone else seeing “Sign in is currently disabled” and “Sign up is currently disabled” on pilot credentials? Both safari and chrome. Emailed the support peeps and standing by…

I just checked on my end and yes I see both as well

Same for me. I am curious the reason. Trying to update my flight times but this is causing that to be difficult.

Anyone have any updates? I still see the “Sign in is currently disabled” and “Sign up is currently disabled” on both AA and SWA now.

supposedly just revamping the website at AA

Pilotcredentials has been having a large number of issues for the last month or so. Both WN and AA use it. So it’s probably in maintenance trying to find the source of its issues.

If hired today at 32 years old, which number would they retire at?

Can’t say for sure. I was hired April 5th and I turn 38 in July. My projection is currently 1758.

probably below 600 somewhere between 300-500 I’d guess.

Last week I saw a couple people heading into the training center in interview attire. Probably just catching up.