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11-27-2021, 06:57 AM

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N261ND

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How long is short call reserve call out?

11-27-2021, 07:00 AM

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PRS Guitars

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Originally Posted by Tjeff

Well what I was trying to say is that from talking to people who actually fly/work the line and have been for years, it’s mostly positive. These forums are mostly negative. So either most AA pilots are liars in person for no apparent reason or these forums are more negative than reality. Of course my personal experience is limited.

This is correct. I talk to military pilots contemplating AA and hear things about our “toxic culture”. I have to explain that the term doesn’t apply to working with other crew, gate agents, rampers etc, but is a term used to describe the relationship between the union and management. We are in negotiations for a contract, no one is going to say how great management is right now, nor should they. As a day to day job, it’s great gig, and even better if you happen to like living in one of our domiciles. I commute and love this job, I’d love the job at every other major though too, I’m sure.

11-27-2021, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars

I’ve found it works wonders by chatting with the gate agent for a minute about their day and walking to the back of the plane and introducing yourself to the flight attendants.

11-27-2021, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by N261ND

How long is short call reserve call out?

A "reasonable amount" of time. Most interpret this to 3 hrs or less.

11-27-2021, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars

Most pilots here are great to fly with IMO. Sure we have our 5%’s and the dreaded 1%’s, but that’s everywhere. The job will be what you make it, not sure what you mean about Check Airman not telling you how it is, as opposed to line pilots? there are 13,000 different pilot opinions of how it is, do you need to be fed your opinion by other pilots? Best thing is to do your job, enjoy your layovers, and give zero ****s about other pilots opinions.

Agreed, vast majority are great, never said anything about that. I’m saying a CKA is not going to sit there and rag on the company for four days like some line guys do. That’s the opposite of their job.

The majority of guys I fly with complain about this company. The majority of FOs I talk to do as well (must have something to do with the fact we’re the only ones who furloughed). There’s like 6 different pilot groups within the company, many of which don’t like certain other groups. That’s all I’m saying

11-28-2021, 05:52 PM

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Is that right that AA doesn’t have a day by day guarantee? For example, day 1 credit 8 hours and day 2 credit 3 hours = 11 hours credit. Since that’s over your average day guarantee of 5-something(?) you don’t get any extra for day 2?

Not quite sure what other majors have but it just surprised me.

11-28-2021, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Setspeed

It’s the exact same average calendar day pay that delta and United have except we also have a sit rig that they don’t. I think SWA has minimum day pay.

11-28-2021, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Setspeed

that is correct for the most part....we have a min AVG credit of 5:15 a day for the duration of the trip...ie. the min a trip with 3 duty periods would pay is 15:45...however we do have a min DAY credit of 2hrs...example day 1 is 8hrs, day 2 is 7hrs, day 3 is 1.5hrs. In this case the trip would pay 17hrs(8+7+2).....we also have a TAFB rig that we call F pay which I don't know what it is off the top of my head(and ya I should know) and we have a sit pay that is 2 to 1 for every sit SCHEDULED over 2 hours..ie. 3 hr sits pay an extra 30mins....I personally think the 5:15 is better than what we had a few years ago which was, nothing.

11-28-2021, 06:12 PM

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Ok thanks. I didn’t realize that was on par with United and Delta. Maybe it’s just the regional standard to have a min day pay of 4 hours or more.

11-30-2021, 07:05 AM

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So, looking at the class drops, for someone who wants to get on the Bus, what are the Pros and Cons of LAX vs LGA as a new hire who’d be commuting?

I know that LGA means you’re covering JFK/LGA/EWR, and LAX I believe is LAX/SNA/SAN?

Ultimate goal is getting back to CLT, but my gut instinct is doing some West Coast / HI flying to start could be fun.

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