It’s a straw man argument

 

You’re not fully understanding my post. I absolutely enjoyed teaching and it was very rewarding. That being said, my experience, knowledge and qualifications are a commodity that I expected to be compensated for. And at a 40% override I was. It’s not personal, it’s business. Does that make sense?

 

“Should have stayed at your regional if you enjoyed the pay and quality of life so much” is not the rebuttal you think it is my friend. Why are suggestions for improvement met with such contempt at this place?

 

Show me where anyone has said anything against seeking improvements here? This whole thread has been about other people falling on their sword, and bashing anyone who might want to be a check airman.

Have a look at the open time for the next couple of days, there are plenty of ca's and fo's flying extra, for straight time, in every G2 status I looked at. So while thats still going on, I'd dial back the "little pecker and a name tag", and "stroking their ego's" comments. (I realize you didn't make those comments, but they are here, in this thread).

Just like R57 was saying earlier, if you are a junior captain who lives in DFW or CLT, or commuting to base, and is either working every day on reserve, or flying the crappy four day trips the junior people get to enjoy for 16 days a month, being an X type check airman can most certainly be a quality of life improvement.

 

No doubt that line pilots are also screwing everyone over. The union can’t get away with hinting at not picking up open time, they can get away with highlighting shortcomings of becoming a CKA. So applying now is flying directly in the face of union strategy, which feels like a pretty crappy thing to do to me.

My comment above was in response to someone saying “must not have been that great of a gig if you left”. Feels very much in the same vein as “why don’t you apply to delta then?” The point of the original comment was to show how a regional had better rules for their CKA, and I can’t see why the response would be anything other than thinking there is much work to be done here. If I misinterpreted, I apologize. Just seems counterproductive

 

This.

We have a ton of leverage right now as a result of the CKA shortage/resignations. I definitely understand why some would want to be a CKA- junior commuters enjoying the positive space, live in DFW/CLT, enjoy teaching, whatever- and our CKA/training department overall is a strong point at this company. But there’s nothing that prevents a current CKA from returning to the line (a better deal for most, given how many CKA are doing so) and returning to become a CKA after Section 12 is improved. Or, delaying that CKA application until after Section 12 is improved.

If you absolutely must scratch that “I love to teach!!!!” itch… remember, you don’t have to be a CKA to do so. Plenty of instruction and mentorship can happen as a line pilot while we use this leverage for everyone’s long term benefit…

 

Im sorry are you asking why I left a regional to work at AA?

The teaching was sometimes rewarding and sometimes frustrating. Allowing someone to land a 75k lb acft when they were flying a 172 3 months before was frequently pretty scary.

I didn’t do it for the money but I certainly would NOT have done it if I was making the same or less than other line pilots for working MORE days.

Your post came off as condescending and pretty d****y.

 

Nothing preventing them, except for the way things work around here is they probably wouldn't be allowed to go back, or their application would end up in the trash.

If you expect the check airman to do the heavy lifting, best show some solidarity. No one bid a higher paying status for a year, and no straight time pickup might make a statement.

 

The company is desperate for more CKAs… so you think they’re going to hold a petty grudge and go out of their way to prevent former CKAs, the vast majority of which were already vetted and respected, from reapplying and getting hired? In favor of brand-new CKA only? Exacerbate their CKA manning crisis more than it already is, just out of spite? Really? That’s makes zero sense. The handful of resigned CKAs I’ve spoken with fully intend to reapply to become CKA, and expect to be hired… but not until Section 12 improves. By a lot. None of them fear reprisal. Perhaps they’re outliers. I think not.

As for the membership being more unified across the board- following the contract, there is no mission, stay out of makeup, etc etc- sure, I agree. The CKA crisis is but one small piece, albeit one that holds a massive amount of leverage and company attention.

 

this. Check airman shouldn’t contemplate turning in their letter for contract leverage. I do have a problem with new people stepping up right now. They should know better.