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Originally Posted by BLAHBLAHBLAH (Post 3338039)

How many of AA "new" aircraft are the newest (MAX/NEO) generation of the aircraft? Last I read they pulled the trigger on new aircraft a couple years too early.

100 MAXs and 130 NXs (of which 50 are XLR).

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Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3338055)

100 MAXs and 130 NXs (of which 50 are XLR).

Says currently 42 MAX and 43 321NEO.

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Originally Posted by BLAHBLAHBLAH (Post 3338066)

Says currently 42 MAX and 43 321NEO.

Yep that's what's currently in the fleet but more are on order.

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Originally Posted by BLAHBLAHBLAH (Post 3338066)

Says currently 42 MAX and 43 321NEO.

Correct, that’s what has been delivered. Orders are continuing to arrive though. The XLRs won’t be arriving until 2023.

There’s a total of 191 new aircraft on order. MAX8s, NX/XLR, 787-8 & -9.

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Originally Posted by El Peso (Post 3338090)

Correct, that’s what has been delivered. Orders are continuing to arrive though. The XLRs won’t be arriving until 2023.

There’s a total of 191 new aircraft on order. MAX8s, NX/XLR, 787-8 & -9.

So at least 15-20 Billion in new financing.

AA planes are already financed. Interest rates are going up. What will Delta get? AA is positioned nicely. We just need someone to run the show.

They announced late yesterday that they will be working on a new contract 24/7 in January. That makes me suspicious. We signed last time just before record profits. If Delta and United start negotiating at a rapid pace then we should all step back.

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Originally Posted by Gundam (Post 3338030)

What is up with sick policy? Do you guys always require a doctor's note, or only after a certain number of sick outs?
Also, any idea on expected growth once things normalize?

Don’t always require.

If you use over 100hrs in the sick year, then yes, doc note.

CPO has the option to make a good faith inquiry if below 100hrs…like if you are sitting short call, get assigned a trip, and then bang in sick, that’s gonna raise the CPO eyebrows because it smells of “I’m out of position”.

That very scenario occurred when the 747 was being phased out in DTW. It was down to only one departure a day, plane left and then had to air return…original crew would time out so they called in all the short calls…all banged in sick…turns out they were sitting at home multiple time zones away.

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Originally Posted by Varks (Post 3338137)

They announced late yesterday that they will be working on a new contract 24/7 in January. That makes me suspicious. We signed last time just before record profits. If Delta and United start negotiating at a rapid pace then we should all step back.

DL Mgmt filed for mediation about 69 seconds after our contract amendable date. Govt wouldn’t let the mediator travel during Covid and Zoom want an option so there has been absolutely zero negotiable for almost two years.

First mediated session is late Jan.

DL and “rapid pace” ain’t happening.

Gundam do you also have offers at both airlines?

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Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3337190)

Make a pros and cons list.

Delta:
Bases in NYC, ATL, DTW, MSP, SLC, SEA, LAX
Questionable cockpit culture especially the RDPs in ATL. Military vs. civilian issues. "Where's your hat, son?" "Put that newspaper away, son". Guard policing and constant ambiguous ride reports.
Horse blankets when it's 90 degrees.
Autocratic management style only a notch above SkyWest. They will treat you like a child. Pilots are the only union. DALPA usually bends over anyhow.
The company is profitable and the pilots make good money. Strong balance sheet. Aging fleet will have to be replaced. Debt will go up.
Arguably the best product in terms of passenger experience. Loyal business customer base (HVCs).
Work rules are okay except their schedules. Reassignment rules worse than a regional. You won't fly what you bid.
210/356 day bid awards and new hire seat locks. Nearly guarantees 2 years in NYC if you're junior.

Holy cow. I’ve been at D for 6 years and nearly everything you wrote is wrong. I bolded the only accurate stuff. D ain’t perfect but you’re doling out a lot of misinformation.